RuralPug Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Aren't all ANKC breeders constrained not to deliberately produce crossbreeds? Should a copy of that advert have been sent to DogsNSW? Here is the DogsNSW Code of Ethics - Section 5 covers the forbidding of crossbreeding (except for the exceptions LOL) Sorry, a tad OT. They can't use their purebred/registered dogs for crossbreeeding, but are free to cross any other dog they like, with whatever they want. So they can only breed crossbred to crossbred? Is that right? Which would exclude most of the F1 crosses currently being touted as so-called "designer" dogs. So if the add was for a first cross of purebreds, or even of one purebred to a crossbred, they would be in breach of the regulations, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixeduppup Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 All I can think about his how much hair would be shed :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allerzeit Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Aren't all ANKC breeders constrained not to deliberately produce crossbreeds? Should a copy of that advert have been sent to DogsNSW? Here is the DogsNSW Code of Ethics - Section 5 covers the forbidding of crossbreeding (except for the exceptions LOL) Sorry, a tad OT. They can't use their purebred/registered dogs for crossbreeeding, but are free to cross any other dog they like, with whatever they want. So they can only breed crossbred to crossbred? Is that right? Which would exclude most of the F1 crosses currently being touted as so-called "designer" dogs. So if the add was for a first cross of purebreds, or even of one purebred to a crossbred, they would be in breach of the regulations, yes? Not necessarily. If they used un-registered purebred dogs they could do what they liked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimax Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Aren't all ANKC breeders constrained not to deliberately produce crossbreeds? Should a copy of that advert have been sent to DogsNSW? Here is the DogsNSW Code of Ethics - Section 5 covers the forbidding of crossbreeding (except for the exceptions LOL) Sorry, a tad OT. They can't use their purebred/registered dogs for crossbreeeding, but are free to cross any other dog they like, with whatever they want. So they can only breed crossbred to crossbred? Is that right? Which would exclude most of the F1 crosses currently being touted as so-called "designer" dogs. So if the add was for a first cross of purebreds, or even of one purebred to a crossbred, they would be in breach of the regulations, yes? Not necessarily. If they used un-registered purebred dogs they could do what they liked. Exactly, the dogs they use just can't be registered, but they can be as pure as their registered dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepe001 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 There was a thread here about mismarked labs a while ago. I have personally seen two brindle point labs in Brisbane and both had papers according to the owners. Does that lab breeder live in SEQld? I have also seen a litter of working line labs that were black with white paws. Apparently the Queen had a white-pawed dog who was used by outside breeders. Incidentally I have heard of a story where an elderly lady had her cocker spaniel clipped and it became a small rotti bitch. Apparently, she had adopted it as a black and tan cocker but once the longish coat was off it looked exactly like a rotti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrubber Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 1376865821[/url]' post='6279883']There was a thread here about mismarked labs a while ago. I have personally seen two brindle point labs in Brisbane and both had papers according to the owners. Does that lab breeder live in SEQld? I have also seen a litter of working line labs that were black with white paws. Apparently the Queen had a white-pawed dog who was used by outside breeders. Incidentally I have heard of a story where an elderly lady had her cocker spaniel clipped and it became a small rotti bitch. Apparently, she had adopted it as a black and tan cocker but once the longish coat was off it looked exactly like a rotti. The breeder I referred to is Not in SE QLD. You can probably find brindle-marked Labs in all states.White on pads is much honored. The first dual champion Lab, Banchory Bolo, had white spots in his pads and passed the trait on. Seehttp://www.lorkenfarms.com/banchory_bolo.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyBlue Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 1376865821[/url]' post='6279883']There was a thread here about mismarked labs a while ago. I have personally seen two brindle point labs in Brisbane and both had papers according to the owners. Does that lab breeder live in SEQld? I have also seen a litter of working line labs that were black with white paws. Apparently the Queen had a white-pawed dog who was used by outside breeders. Incidentally I have heard of a story where an elderly lady had her cocker spaniel clipped and it became a small rotti bitch. Apparently, she had adopted it as a black and tan cocker but once the longish coat was off it looked exactly like a rotti. The breeder I referred to is Not in SE QLD. You can probably find brindle-marked Labs in all states.White on pads is much honored. The first dual champion Lab, Banchory Bolo, had white spots in his pads and passed the trait on. Seehttp://www.lorkenfarms.com/banchory_bolo.htm My last boy had bolo marks :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casowner Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 This was apparently a pure bred lab unregistered from 2 papered dogs, all other pups were black or yellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozzie Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 We had a litter of Labs through rescue who had brindle points. I remember an awful lot of people on here hoo hawing, saying they couldn't possibly be Labs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casowner Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I know the person who owned the parti and as she matured she looked lab through and through, I haven't seen brindle though. Long haired rotti's look awesome and the ones I have met have been goofballs :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*kirty* Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 We've had pedigree black labs with brindle markings come through work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffyluv Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share Posted August 19, 2013 Rozzie do you have photos of the brindle ones? This is amazing, I thought they only came in yellow, black and chocolate.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixeduppup Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I've met a pedigree lab with tan points. pretty awesome looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozzie Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I do on the other computer. They were pretty stunning looking pups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffyluv Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share Posted August 19, 2013 I do on the other computer. They were pretty stunning looking pups. I would love to see some, if and when you have time :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 We had a litter of Labs through rescue who had brindle points. I remember an awful lot of people on here hoo hawing, saying they couldn't possibly be Labs. Yep i now a bitch ,hard to see when they mature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph M Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I have heard non dog people call a goldie a long haired Labrador before today. Our flat coat gets all kinds of crazy guesses, and tbh a few people walk off thinking he's a 'black coated retriever' or a 'black golden retriever' etc because it's too hard to correct them on the run. Once we even got 'smooth curly coated retriever' Ooook. Lots of interesting 'what cross is he?' guesses too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph M Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 She could even be a flattie or flattie x. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancinbcs Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Aren't all ANKC breeders constrained not to deliberately produce crossbreeds? Should a copy of that advert have been sent to DogsNSW? Here is the DogsNSW Code of Ethics - Section 5 covers the forbidding of crossbreeding (except for the exceptions LOL) Sorry, a tad OT. They can't use their purebred/registered dogs for crossbreeeding, but are free to cross any other dog they like, with whatever they want. So they can only breed crossbred to crossbred? Is that right? Which would exclude most of the F1 crosses currently being touted as so-called "designer" dogs. So if the add was for a first cross of purebreds, or even of one purebred to a crossbred, they would be in breach of the regulations, yes? Not necessarily. If they used un-registered purebred dogs they could do what they liked. Not in NSW. Our COE prohibits Dogs NSW members from breeding any dogs not on the ANKC main register. Quote section 12 "A member shall not knowingly permit the mating of any dog or bitch which is not registered on the Main Register of ANKC Ltd or with an organisation on the listing of ANKC Recognised Working Dog Associations/Kindred Bodies as being eligible for registration on the Sporting Register. (07/13)" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuralPug Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Aren't all ANKC breeders constrained not to deliberately produce crossbreeds? Should a copy of that advert have been sent to DogsNSW? Here is the DogsNSW Code of Ethics - Section 5 covers the forbidding of crossbreeding (except for the exceptions LOL) Sorry, a tad OT. They can't use their purebred/registered dogs for crossbreeeding, but are free to cross any other dog they like, with whatever they want. So they can only breed crossbred to crossbred? Is that right? Which would exclude most of the F1 crosses currently being touted as so-called "designer" dogs. So if the add was for a first cross of purebreds, or even of one purebred to a crossbred, they would be in breach of the regulations, yes? Not necessarily. If they used un-registered purebred dogs they could do what they liked. Not in NSW. Our COE prohibits Dogs NSW members from breeding any dogs not on the ANKC main register. Quote section 12 "A member shall not knowingly permit the mating of any dog or bitch which is not registered on the Main Register of ANKC Ltd or with an organisation on the listing of ANKC Recognised Working Dog Associations/Kindred Bodies as being eligible for registration on the Sporting Register. (07/13)" Thank you for that dancinbcs, so they only time that a DogsNSW member could advertise crossbreds they had bred was if it was a once-off, accidental mating? I will have to go through the DogsVic rules and regs again and see if there is similar paragraph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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