Nobivac Question

[fluff1234]

Hi all

My pup has been vaccinated with C6 at 6 weeks and C5 at 10 weeks. I want to switch to Nobivac due to the efficancy and 3 yr recall. How long do i need to waiti after the 10 week vaccination before he can have it?

He is due a third and the vet I have found says 4 weeks and they nobivac, (wish I had found them BEFORE he had the second shot this weekend!)

On the information I have found it says 14 days between other vaccinations and nobivac, anyone know? I will ring the vet and get it done sooner if its safe as need to get him out and about earlier as he is super clingy and getting issues when left, would make it MUCH easier to take him on longer trips safely.

[OSoSwift]

I would think his puppy vaccinations may be done then you can give him the triennial vacc for his first yearly booster which is at around 14 15 months, why does he need it now?

If you give him another vaccination in two weeks you will be over loading his system just a bit

Edited August 4, 2013 by OSoSwift

[fluff1234]

He needs a third vaccination regardless, we have decided to do the nobivac instead of the standard C5, if we had already done the nobivac he wouldnt need the third shot but we didnt, so he does. :)

hadnt heard of it until we rang a vet nearer our home as we went to our old vets where we used to live for his 2nd booster. Theyw ere going to do his 3rd booster in 2 weeks time.

Wondering how long I have to wait before having it as he is due in 4 weeks time according to other schedules..

Edited August 4, 2013 by fairystar

[LisaCC]

I was under the impression that with all puppy vacs they needed to have the first yearly booster anyway

[fluff1234]

Yes they do :)

I am not asking about the yearly booster

This is in question to the gap between 2nd and 3rd normal puppy vaccinations, if we used nobivac for the 3rd one, instead of another C5, not sure If I am wording it right...

[DeltaCharlie]

He needs a third vaccination regardless, we have decided to do the nobivac instead of the standard C5, if we had already done the nobivac he wouldnt need the third shot but we didnt, so he does. :)

hadnt heard of it until we rang a vet nearer our home as we went to our old vets where we used to live for his 2nd booster. Theyw ere going to do his 3rd booster in 2 weeks time.

Wondering how long I have to wait before having it as he is due in 4 weeks time according to other schedules..

Don't be fooled by that. One of ours had the nobivac 10-week shot thinking that would be all she would need. It completely eradicated maternal immunity but didn't take effect itself leaving the puppy with absolutely no immunity whatsoever (took titre levels to see how it was going). She ended up needing to have the protech vaccinations after all.

I am not a fan of the nobivac vaccine, that is an awful lot of vaccination to be putting into a little body in one hit. Think about it, it is a high enough dose to override maternal antibodies- that is a pretty potent amount! To give it to a dog after already giving it other vaccinations is just asking for trouble IMO.

I can dig out what Dr Jean Dodds said in response to the nobivac vaccine if you like. She is considered a pioneer in vaccination protocols and preventing the overvaccinating of pets. Even she still recommends the protech shot at 9,12, 16 weeks.

[DeltaCharlie]

I was under the impression that with all puppy vacs they needed to have the first yearly booster anyway

I've always titre tested at 14 months and they have always come back with highest levels of protection and haven't required the first year booster. So mine just have the puppy shots, then titre 12 months later. If they were low I would of course vaccinate but haven't needed to on any of them yet.

[fluff1234]

Oh Wow really, I was told by the local vet it was the best vaccine and recommended it instead of having another c5. he has had ones at 6 weeks and 10 weeks and due again at 14 weeks when he is booked in for nobivac instead of the C5 as she advised it as better.

[2boxer]

My understanding is there must be a minimum 14 days between vaccines.

[OSoSwift]

He needs a third vaccination regardless, we have decided to do the nobivac instead of the standard C5, if we had already done the nobivac he wouldnt need the third shot but we didnt, so he does. :)

hadnt heard of it until we rang a vet nearer our home as we went to our old vets where we used to live for his 2nd booster. Theyw ere going to do his 3rd booster in 2 weeks time.

Wondering how long I have to wait before having it as he is due in 4 weeks time according to other schedules..

Okay sorry was confused. I thought the regime was puppy vacc's, first yearly vacc then every three years as well???

[OSoSwift]

LAst time I had a puppy done - which was 5 years ago, I did two puppy vaccines then a yearly one 12 months later. Have the recommendations gone back to three puppy vacc's again?

Edited August 4, 2013 by OSoSwift

[dotdashdot]

LAst time I had a puppy done - which was 5 years ago, I did two puppy vaccines then a yearly one 12 months later. Have the recommendations gone back to three puppy vacc's again?

I think it depends what vaccine you get? Cleo only has records for 2, 1 at her breeder and one with me then 12 months til her booster.

[fluff1234]

I have been told 3. breeder had him done at 6 weeks. He was then due at 10-12 weeks and then 14-16 weeks according to all the vets I ahve spoken too. However, speaking to a local one yesterday, if I had got the nobivac instead of the C5, he would not of needed another one. however, becasue I got the c5, he does need the third shot.

LAst time I had a puppy done - which was 5 years ago, I did two puppy vaccines then a yearly one 12 months later. Have the recommendations gone back to three puppy vacc's again?

[OSoSwift]

Ahh righto now I get it :)

I am quite sure my local vet only does the two, well they did last time I checked :)

Edited August 4, 2013 by OSoSwift

[Tassie]

They seem to change a bit. Mine had 3 puppy shots, 11 years ago, although I seem to recall the 16 week one was optional. When Rory was a pup 4 years ago, the same vet was only doing the 6 and 12 (that was C3 for the 6 week, and c5 at 12 weeks - and then the booster 12 months later.

@DC - that's interesting about the Nobivac. I'd be interested in knowing a bit more about it (not for me, but for our dog club requirements.)

[OSoSwift]

OH while I think about it they don't give the trienniel at 16 weeks do they? I thought they only gave the trienniel at the 1 year booster - I may well be wrong though.

[Jumabaar]

OH while I think about it they don't give the trienniel at 16 weeks do they? I thought they only gave the trienniel at the 1 year booster - I may well be wrong though.

Protech Duramune is registered as a triannial and can be used for puppy vacs as well. It advertises that is gives immunity so long as one shot is given after 12 weeks of age ie a pup can have just two vaccinations and be appropriately covered, but it its given earlier (6 and 10 weeks) then a third vaccination is necessary to know that in most pups maternal antibodies would have reduced enough for the vaccine to be effective.

Other vaccines state that a vaccination is required after 14 weeks of age for coverage which is why there are a variety of recommendations.

The shot one year later is only done to catch any non responders to the puppy vaccinations rather than boosting the puppy vaccine. So I have titre tested and if it comes back positive then they would need their next shot at 3yrs of age.

Edited August 5, 2013 by Jumabaar

[LisaCC]

I was told by the vet that 3 vac were needed as the first was done at 6weeks, then each one 1months later. If the first one was at 8wks+ then they will give just 2.

Edited August 5, 2013 by LisaCC

[Rebanne]

I only ever have 2 puppy shots given.

[OSoSwift]

OH while I think about it they don't give the trienniel at 16 weeks do they? I thought they only gave the trienniel at the 1 year booster - I may well be wrong though.

Protech Duramune is registered as a triannial and can be used for puppy vacs as well. It advertises that is gives immunity so long as one shot is given after 12 weeks of age ie a pup can have just two vaccinations and be appropriately covered, but it its given earlier (6 and 10 weeks) then a third vaccination is necessary to know that in most pups maternal antibodies would have reduced enough for the vaccine to be effective.

Other vaccines state that a vaccination is required after 14 weeks of age for coverage which is why there are a variety of recommendations.

The shot one year later is only done to catch any non responders to the puppy vaccinations rather than boosting the puppy vaccine. So I have titre tested and if it comes back positive then they would need their next shot at 3yrs of age.

Thank you that makes sense :)

So many vaccines and regimes these days :)