HeelerLove Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) About a month and a half ago, I took Gus into the vet as his eye was quite weepy with green pus and didn't look right. Vet checked it, said he couldn't see anything in it to be causing it, put dye in it and did an ulcer test to make sure there were no ulcers, nothing came up. Said it was most likely conjunctivitis (even though it was only one eye and my other dog hadn't picked it up from him) and gave me some gel stuff to put in his eye for 7-10 days. Did that, eye cleared up. Fast forward about a week after I had stopped putting the gel in and back to gunky, with a red band across the top of the eyeball Back to the vet again. Different vet this time, same practice though so had all the notes from the first time. Another dye test, still nothing. Checked the eye again, couldn't see anything that would be causing it. Checked the roof of his mouth (said it could be a cancer behind the eye and if it was it would be likely he'd have a lump in the roof of his mouth from it too). No lump. Did a blink test and he had lost all sight in that eye. Gave me a weeks worth of antibiotics and anti-inflammatories and a different tube of eye gel/drops to try. Said he was now permanently blind in that eye and if he still had sight she would want me to go to an eye specialist immediately, but as there was no vision, if it was still gunky at the end of the week to go and see Dr Reads at Veterinary Ophthalmic Referrals as if it didn't clear up it would be beyond the scope of a normal vet. Within a day of him having the tablets no gunk and the red band turned to a cloudy looking something (cataract I guess, but doesn't quite look the same when I google it) over the eye. It has been fine for about 2-3 weeks now, just cloudy. But yesterday I noticed the green pus is back My questions are: Could the antibiotics have worked, just not well enough to get the whole infection? Do I give them another shot? Maybe another course is needed to clear up the last of whatever is causing it? Or do I bite the bullet and go directly to the specialist? Has anyone experienced anything like this before? The vet was stumped, said she has never seen anything like it and has no idea what would be causing it. Anyone had experience with Dr Reads at Veterinary Ophthalmic Referrals? edited for spelling Edited July 22, 2013 by BlueyLove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumabaar Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Specialist. Eyes can be painful even if they cant see!! And it doesn't sound like you are getting resolution and wll probably end up costing as much continuing to go to your regular vet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karly101 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Specialist..eyes can be tricky to treat and you don't want to waste any more time when it is something unusual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodoggies2001 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Yes, I agree, go and see a specialist. I had a dog treated with my vet for weeks for dry eye until she sent me to a specialist because the condition didn't improve. In the end, he lost his eye because of ulceration. Don't muck around. It's not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) Sounds like possibly keraconjunctivitis sicca or dry eye. Due to the lack of tears the eye becomes inflamed and looks infected. An opaque appearance can also occur. It is incredibly painful and will not improve until you treat the dry eye. Edited July 22, 2013 by ~Anne~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*kirty* Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 What breed of dog? And how old? Are the whites of the eye red/bloodshot? What does the pupil look like? I would go and see a specialist. The clouding is most likely scarring or inflammation on the cornea (front of the eye). It sounds like an unhappy eye and is probably painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julesluvscavs Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) Hi We saw his colleague recently. I thought we were going see Dr Read but got the other one instead, who is very good as well He was very thorough ! Joey still has some ongoing eye issues, its been assumed one of his eyes was scratched at some stage by either the cats or even young Miah as she tends to jump all over them. He gave us some better eyedrops than what the vet had given him (which were making it worse), and if it doesn't come right (could take a long time) they can do a small op on his eye for it. Its improving but not 100 percent yet.. He also gave us some tablets in case his eye was painful but we didn't keep Joey on them for too long. Eyes are very precious and id be seeing the specialist as soon as you can. It didnt take us long to get an appt as soon as the vet put a referal through for us:) All the best with it. Edited July 22, 2013 by Jules❤3Cavs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeelerLove Posted July 22, 2013 Author Share Posted July 22, 2013 Sounds like possibly keraconjunctivitis sicca or dry eye. Due to the lack of tears the eye becomes inflamed and looks infected. An opaque appearance can also occur. It is incredibly painful and will not improve until you treat the dry eye. Hi Anne, I did some research after the first vet visit and thought it could be this. I asked the vet the second time we went in and she checked his tear duct and said it still looked ok so didn't feel the need for a STT. I am still wondering about it though, especially now you have mentioned it. What breed of dog? And how old? Are the whites of the eye red/bloodshot? What does the pupil look like? I would go and see a specialist. The clouding is most likely scarring or inflammation on the cornea (front of the eye). It sounds like an unhappy eye and is probably painful. ACD x Staffy. Shelter first said he was 8, then his microchip papers came through with his age as 10, I asked the vet what they thought and he thinks he is 10+. Some days white of the eye is very bloodshot, some days not. Pupil looks fine apart from clouding. When I took him in the second time the eye looked slightly swollen (hence the anti-inflams) but looks ok now, just the gunk is back. Hi We saw his colleague recently. I thought we were going see Dr Read but got the other one instead, who is very good as well He was very thorough ! Joey still has some ongoing eye issues, its been assumed one of his eyes was scratched at some stage by either the cats or even young Miah as she tends to jump all over them. He gave us some better eyedrops than what the vet had given him (which were making it worse), and if it doesn't come right (could take a long time) they can do a small op on his eye for it. Its improving but not 100 percent yet.. He also gave us some tablets in case his eye was painful but we didn't keep Joey on them for too long. Eyes are very precious and id be seeing the specialist as soon as you can. It didnt take us long to get an appt as soon as the vet put a referal through for us:) All the best with it. Thanks Jules. Yes the vet asked if it is possible the eye could have been scratched but surely I would have noticed if that had happened? I am wondering if it could have been from something that happened before I got him (last October) that has only just surfaced but I'm sure if that was the case it wouldn't have taken this long to come up. We've tried two different types of drops/gel now. The first helped but didn't clear it up, the second was great. I spoke to the vet last night and she told me to come and pick up another tube of second drops/gel until he can see the specialist so I did that and started them again last night. It cleared up almost immediately and this morning no gunk :) When I put the gel in last night it brought some gunk to the front of the eyeball that I hadn't seen when I wiped the eye out beforehand, I wiped it out and it looked like a blade of grass about 1.5cms long! The vet has given us a referral so hopefully we can get in fairly quickly and get this sorted. Poor old boy had a hard life before he came to us, he doesn't deserve this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julesluvscavs Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 (edited) Sounds very similar to what Joey has ! but not saying it is ... We did not notice it initially and it never occurred to us that his eye had been scratched.. even after treatment there is still a visible patch/cloudiness in his eye, which may need operating on later. The vets thought he would go blind, but the specialist said he won't .The vet also said he was beginning to get cataracts but the specialist said hes not getting them.. the specialist is able to do many more thorough tests than the vet is able too. the vet gave him some gel drops that made it worse and had prolonged the healing wheras the drops the specialist gave us has worked much better.. still a way to go yet with it all. Hope you get into the specialist soon and get it sorted out, poor boy :) ps Someone told me their dog had its eye once scratched even by a blade of grass that got infected.. Edited July 23, 2013 by Jules❤3Cavs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julesluvscavs Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 (edited) In Joey's case this is what he had/still has : Corneal abrasion with secondary corneal lipidosis . We saw Dr Gavin Newman, same place as Dr Read Please keep us updated once you have seen the specialist. Thanks Edited July 23, 2013 by Jules❤3Cavs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 here's hoping that bit of grass was the culprit .. now that it's out, there should be no further injury if it was . Good luck at teh specialists . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 What do you mean he looked at it and said it looked ok? The only way to determine the level of tear production is to test it with something like a schirmer test, not look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeelerLove Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share Posted July 23, 2013 I'm not sure.. she said he still seemed to be producing tears? After doing more research today, I think she should have done the test but what's done is done, specialist can sort it out now. It was the first time I have seen her and I wasn't sure about her and my girl who loves anyone and everyone didn't want much to do with her. Might stick with guy I usually see there in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Specialist. Too important not to go. I thought perhaps dry eye. The vet needs to test for it - which is neither difficult or expensive - instead of the look and guess method. One of my dogs had dry eye and was producing lots of tears to try to lubricate the eye. Good luck with it. Sounds very frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*kirty* Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Any updates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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