Pomeranian Having Trouble Breathing

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Not saying it's the same thing but....Sounds so similar to a terribly bald and sad japanese spitz boy I rescued once.

It was a 36hr shift to get him through the very worst of it. Vaporiser, shots, antibiotics from his vet should have worked (he had everyone shaking their heads) but sometimes there's the odd dog who is very susceptible and very immune suppressed.

So under vet advice, meds and in conjunction with me being there to stand him up and revive him when he stopped breathing (passed out, eyes roll back, wet himself), it took a lot of noooo-sleep but he turned a corner, got better, grew all his hair back and ended up being adopted. Worst upper respiratory tract infection I've ever ever seen.

Also the most awesome boy who really stole my heart, we fought so hard together and he didn't even look back over his shoulder as he trotted off to a new home.

You might look into buying a nebuliser, for the tiniest dogs it's the best way of delivering medication for respiratory disease. Omron brand if you google it.

Edited July 7, 2013 by Powerlegs

[Daisys Mum]

Poor little man .... It must be awful for him not being able to breathe

I have my that he makes a full recovery :)

[yellowgirl]

He has a heavy growth of Morganella, it's resistant to most antibiotics out there

Treatment of M. morganii infections may include:

Ticarcillin

Piperacillin

Ciprofloxacin

Third-generation and Fourth-generation cephalosporins

A study conducted at the University Hospital at Heraklion, Crete, Greece showed a 92% success rate in the use of these antibiotics.[13]

However, there are M. morganii strains are resistant to penicillin, ampicillin/sulbactam, oxacillin, first-generation and second-generation cephalosporins, macrolides, lincosamides, fosfomycin, colistin, and polymyxin B.[3] The emergence of highly resistant strains of M. morganii have been associated with use of third-generation cephalosporins.[3]

Polymicrobial infections are most abundantly caused by this microbe which additionally damages the skin, soft tissues, and urogenital tract can be cured through use of the aforementioned antibiotics.[13]

Such a severe infection could also probably warrant IV antibiotics and a drip to ensure a proper dose is being received.

Thank you so much Nekhbet, I've printed this out for the vet tomorrow.xx

Mita that link is terrific - have bookmarked it for future reference. Thanks for posting. Have a good look Jo - something might be helpful there. Good luck for tomorrow - will be thinking of you.

I agree, it's a great link, thank you mita. I've printed off all the headings for my vet to look through. xx

He has a heavy growth of Morganella, it's resistant to most antibiotics out there

Treatment of M. morganii infections may include:

Ticarcillin

Piperacillin

Ciprofloxacin

Third-generation and Fourth-generation cephalosporins

A study conducted at the University Hospital at Heraklion, Crete, Greece showed a 92% success rate in the use of these antibiotics.[13]

However, there are M. morganii strains are resistant to penicillin, ampicillin/sulbactam, oxacillin, first-generation and second-generation cephalosporins, macrolides, lincosamides, fosfomycin, colistin, and polymyxin B.[3] The emergence of highly resistant strains of M. morganii have been associated with use of third-generation cephalosporins.[3]

Polymicrobial infections are most abundantly caused by this microbe which additionally damages the skin, soft tissues, and urogenital tract can be cured through use of the aforementioned antibiotics.[13]

Such a severe infection could also probably warrant IV antibiotics and a drip to ensure a proper dose is being received.

I looked up Morganella too... and the nasal swab tests indicated which drugs seemed to smack it about - the ones that had 2 S's might be effective...

Poor little man... I sure hope the vet can make him feel better soon - if only to let him get some much needed uninterrupted sleep.

YG - can you plant a kiss on his forehead from me please? And tell him that Aunty Tracey says he's got to be nice to the vet so he can help him get better soon.

T.

He's on Baytril, tdierikx, it's 50mg Enroflaxacin (has 2 S's) and he has a quarter tab at night.

I will certainly give him a kiss from you, Aunty Tracey, and will pass on the message :)

[Nekhbet]

You have to think too a dog that age how much of the medication is he absorbing through his digestive tract, might be worth mega dosing for a while to hit the infection hard. If Baytril for almost a week is not working I would be considering changing ASAP

[yellowgirl]

Not saying it's the same thing but....Sounds so similar to a terribly bald and sad japanese spitz boy I rescued once.

It was a 36hr shift to get him through the very worst of it. Vaporiser, shots, antibiotics from his vet should have worked (he had everyone shaking their heads) but sometimes there's the odd dog who is very susceptible and very immune suppressed.

So under vet advice, meds and in conjunction with me being there to stand him up and revive him when he stopped breathing (passed out, eyes roll back, wet himself), it took a lot of noooo-sleep but he turned a corner, got better, grew all his hair back and ended up being adopted. Worst upper respiratory tract infection I've ever ever seen.

Also the most awesome boy who really stole my heart, we fought so hard together and he didn't even look back over his shoulder as he trotted off to a new home.

You might look into buying a nebuliser, for the tiniest dogs it's the best way of delivering medication for respiratory disease. Omron brand if you google it.

Thank you so much for posting Powerlegs. I know how much you would have gone through to get your boy healthy. If Chester does have a similar issue, I feel a bit more positive about getting him better.

I'll ask the vet about a nebuliser - did you use one for your boy or was it just a matter of manually keeping him upright and breathing?

Poor little man .... It must be awful for him not being able to breathe

I have my that he makes a full recovery :)

Thanks Marg, all good thoughts are appreciated :)

[yellowgirl]

You have to think too a dog that age how much of the medication is he absorbing through his digestive tract, might be worth mega dosing for a while to hit the infection hard. If Baytril for almost a week is not working I would be considering changing ASAP

I agree Nekhbet, the last time we had a dog with a nasal infection the Baytril knocked it within two days. It's been 5 days now and there's no noticeable improvement. I've added your suggestions to my notes. xx

[yellowgirl]

Chester walking around. You can see that his front left leg is still quite weak and he's still a bit wobbly in general. The yawn/lip licking is because of me sticking the camera in his face.

Chester when he's awake/resting.

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Not saying it's the same thing but....Sounds so similar to a terribly bald and sad japanese spitz boy I rescued once.

It was a 36hr shift to get him through the very worst of it. Vaporiser, shots, antibiotics from his vet should have worked (he had everyone shaking their heads) but sometimes there's the odd dog who is very susceptible and very immune suppressed.

So under vet advice, meds and in conjunction with me being there to stand him up and revive him when he stopped breathing (passed out, eyes roll back, wet himself), it took a lot of noooo-sleep but he turned a corner, got better, grew all his hair back and ended up being adopted. Worst upper respiratory tract infection I've ever ever seen.

Also the most awesome boy who really stole my heart, we fought so hard together and he didn't even look back over his shoulder as he trotted off to a new home.

You might look into buying a nebuliser, for the tiniest dogs it's the best way of delivering medication for respiratory disease. Omron brand if you google it.

Thank you so much for posting Powerlegs. I know how much you would have gone through to get your boy healthy. If Chester does have a similar issue, I feel a bit more positive about getting him better.

I'll ask the vet about a nebuliser - did you use one for your boy or was it just a matter of manually keeping him upright and breathing?

At the time, all I had were pretty much what you've got vet, meds, nebuliser edit sorry I meant vaporiser, 4litres of cola to keep me awake and a manual restart whenever he needed it. I even set up a little tented area like you have! :) The vaporiser faced directly at him during the worst part, it seemed to help him a tiny bit more.

Since then the rescue owns a nebuliser and it's worth it. With most of your rescues being quite tiny and elderly compromised animals I'd look into it. :) Baytril can be nebulised too afaik.

Edited July 7, 2013 by Powerlegs

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Just out of Renbury. Sick and bald.

Feeling much betters. :)

[yellowgirl]

Thank you so much for posting Powerlegs. I know how much you would have gone through to get your boy healthy. If Chester does have a similar issue, I feel a bit more positive about getting him better.

I'll ask the vet about a nebuliser - did you use one for your boy or was it just a matter of manually keeping him upright and breathing?

At the time, all I had were pretty much what you've got vet, meds, nebuliser, 4litres of cola to keep me awake and a manual restart whenever he needed it. I even set up a little tented area like you have! :) The vaporiser faced directly at him during the worst part, it seemed to help him a tiny bit more.

Since then the rescue owns a nebuliser and it's worth it. With most of your rescues being quite tiny and elderly compromised animals I'd look into it. :) Baytril can be nebulised too afaik.

I really appreciate you posting Powerlegs, I know you're busy with your own special seniors but it's so great to have someone with your experience and understanding of the issues checking in on our little Chester. It really does mean a lot, thank you :) xx

Just out of Renbury. Sick and bald.

Feeling much betters. :)

And THIS is why we do what we do He is just the sweetest thing Powerlegs! Wonderful, wonderful job. xx

just noticed that his name is Lucky. He sure was :)

Edited July 7, 2013 by yellowgirl

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No problem YG. You are too kind.

Chester looks like a mini Lucky. I'll be willing him to get better for you. :)

[Tara and Sam]

You have to think too a dog that age how much of the medication is he absorbing through his digestive tract, might be worth mega dosing for a while to hit the infection hard. If Baytril for almost a week is not working I would be considering changing ASAP

I agree Nekhbet, the last time we had a dog with a nasal infection the Baytril knocked it within two days. It's been 5 days now and there's no noticeable improvement. I've added your suggestions to my notes. xx

So glad you took him there last night

also AB's can upset the digestive track which in turn can also affect the throat area and goes around in a circle

hopefully with all the suggestions on here to inquire about the Vet can soon find the problem and have Chester feeling much better very soon

He is so cute

sound like one very strong boy to go through what he has been

Hopefully some good news tomorrow

[yellowgirl]

No problem YG. You are too kind.

Chester looks like a mini Lucky. I'll be willing him to get better for you. :)

Thank you. xx

So glad you took him there last night

also AB's can upset the digestive track which in turn can also affect the throat area and goes around in a circle

hopefully with all the suggestions on here to inquire about the Vet can soon find the problem and have Chester feeling much better very soon

He is so cute

sound like one very strong boy to go through what he has been

Hopefully some good news tomorrow

I'm glad too T&S. I'm very grateful for all the suggestions. Yes, I think he's a strong boy too, he must be to have got this far. xx

[yellowgirl]

Is there any way to prop Chester's head up on a pillow or something when he's lying down? Something supporting his head in a more upright position might help a bit... the video seems to show that his breathing gets worse when his head tilts downwards - as it also does when he is drinking... maybe he does have a tracheal issue?

T.

For tdierikx :) Thank you for the suggestion, he does seem a little bit more comfortable. xx

[Cody]

Isn't he just the sweetest!

He's very lucky to have you fighting for him.

[Alkhe]

I have no advice or useful tips, but I just wanted to echo what others have said and say thank you so much for taking Chester on. Your love and dedication is so inspirational, and I wholeheartedly support everything that you and LLDR do. :heart:

[yellowgirl]

Isn't he just the sweetest!

He's very lucky to have you fighting for him.

He is a little sweetie Cody, we're lucky to have him too :) xx

I have no advice or useful tips, but I just wanted to echo what others have said and say thank you so much for taking Chester on. Your love and dedication is so inspirational, and I wholeheartedly support everything that you and LLDR do. :heart:

Thank you Alkhe, that's so sweet. It's lovely to have the support in times like this. xx

[Daisys Mum]

I have met YG a few times and she really is a lovely person ... And if anyone can get this little pom better YG can , she has a special gift :)

Please let me know if you go ahead with fundraising ... I would like to help if I can.

[yellowgirl]

I have met YG a few times and she really is a lovely person ... And if anyone can get this little pom better YG can , she has a special gift :)

Please let me know if you go ahead with fundraising ... I would like to help if I can.

Aww, that's sweet of you Marg. I remember a couple of years ago when I still had my little shop, I needed someone in a hurry to watch the shop for me as I had an appointment and my help had fallen through, I only knew you through DOL but you came and watched the shop for me. You saved the day and I've never forgotten it :)

I hope to organise a fundraiser of some sort in the next week or two so keep an eye on our fb page. xx

[yellowgirl]

Chester is relatively comfortable at the moment but he's still having a bit of trouble breathing. He doesn't seem quite as bad as last night so fingers crossed that he'll have a better night tonight. I think tdierikx's idea of making a kind of pillow to keep his head up has made a great difference!

I will update tomorrow. Thank you all for your suggestions, thoughts and prayers for our little boy, it's very much appreciated

Jo xx