Sick Brand New Puppy :(

[Alkhe]

Thanks guys - vet has advised that puppy is def anemic and they suspect either a bleed in the bowel, bowel infection or her little body is not replenishing her own red blood cells. Still waiting on more results though, Have spoken to the breeder she was really good - has offered to refund cost of puppy on it's return or to put money towards vet bills. We don't want to give her back if she can be healed at a resonable cost for all - prob we have now - where to draw the line???

If I were you, I'd be worrying about ensuring that the pup gets better, and doing everything you can to ensure that. Money would be the last of my concerns,

But money is a concern for most people, including me.

Sorry, I mean.. responsibility for it, I suppose. Of course money's a concern, it would be for me too - but my immediate priority would be ensuring that within reason, the pup is treated. And not whether I'm going to be able to recoup the money.

[megan_]

While I agree in theory you can't put a sick pup on a plane. The breeder is t local.

You wont like this - but Send Her Back.

From information supplied she is currently not healthy.

You may love her, and you will miss her when she goes back. But you can replace her with a healthy pup.

You have 10 - 15 years of life ahead with your dog ..... having a sick one is not an option, or enjoyable. Take up the breeder's offer while you can.

Let the breeder deal with it. None of the 3 options the vet has suggested will have an excellent outcome, imho.

I'd agree with this. If it was a little upset tummy then no, but it sounds much more serious.

[Yonjuro]

You have already contacted the breeder so they are aware of the situation and have offered you assistance by either return, or the spent money towards medical bills. That is a great response from the breeder.

Now you just need to see what the vet thinks both short and long term to work out the best course of action. It is entirely possible that the puppy needs only short term specialist care and all will be well.

I hope things work out for you and your puppy.

[Dogsfevr]

Flame suit on but i don't get what this current trend is to post on DOL about issues without even allowing the breeder to be told first & given the chance to work with pet owners .

I just didn't want to upset or offend the breeder.

In all honesty posts like this do the exact above as there the ones who find out after every tom ,dick & harry has .

[Loving my Oldies]

I have nothing to add to the advice (conflicting) given here, I just wanted to wish you and your puppy all the best.

When I adopted a puppy from a breeder nearly 20 years ago, I was like you: found and adopted her at 4 weeks and visited her while she was growing old enough to come home to me.

First visit to the vet: diagnosed with a bad heart. Naturally, I was devasted, but I can in total honesty says that it never crossed my mind to take her back. She was my dog from the moment I set eyes on her.

My best wishes for you and your puppy.

[Loving my Oldies]

Flame suit on but i don't get what this current trend is to post on DOL about issues without even allowing the breeder to be told first & given the chance to work with pet owners .

I just didn't want to upset or offend the breeder.

In all honesty posts like this do the exact above as there the ones who find out after every tom ,dick & harry has .

I think that grommit was just coming to where she would get a bit of advice and support. It is like having to go for an interview: you ask people who have done it, what to expect, how to handle yourself. Obviously the interview is going to take place, but preparation and planning are necessary.

It is a shock when things go wrong. Surely there is no fault with turning to where you think there will be support from others who may have experience.

[BC Crazy]

I have nothing to add either & I would be the same as DD. Once I laid eye's on 'my puppy' there would be NO taking her back.

I too wish you well with what ever you decide to do.

Edited July 3, 2013 by BC Crazy

[Rebanne]

Flame suit on but i don't get what this current trend is to post on DOL about issues without even allowing the breeder to be told first & given the chance to work with pet owners .

I just didn't want to upset or offend the breeder.

In all honesty posts like this do the exact above as there the ones who find out after every tom ,dick & harry has .

I think that grommit was just coming to where she would get a bit of advice and support. It is like having to go for an interview: you ask people who have done it, what to expect, how to handle yourself. Obviously the interview is going to take place, but preparation and planning are necessary.

It is a shock when things go wrong. Surely there is no fault with turning to where you think there will be support from others who may have experience.

You should get the best advice and support from the breeder. If you have built up a relationship with a breeder and the breeder trusts you enough to let you have one of their precious pups why would you not turn to them first? I found out a couple of things 2nd hand and I can tell you I was less then impressed.

[Guest donatella]

They have a sick puppy, they have come to a dog forum to ask for advice and perhaps get a bit of support. Stop thinking they're just here to breeder bash

[Rebanne]

They have a sick puppy, they have come to a dog forum to ask for advice and perhaps get a bit of support. Stop thinking they're just here to breeder bash

Better they went to their breeder first, that's what breeders are there for.

[Salukifan]

Excuse the extremely obvious question but has the vet eliminated worm burden as a possible cause for the anaemia??

[Guest donatella]

I thought the plan was to contact the breeder when they had more of a diagnosis? That sounds fair to me. At the moment it could possibly be (as suggested) an environmental cause of the pup chewing and swallowing something causing an internal bleeding in which case it's not really a breeder problem.

[Dogsfevr]

They have a sick puppy, they have come to a dog forum to ask for advice and perhaps get a bit of support. Stop thinking they're just here to breeder bash

Why bang your head ,i didn't say they where breeder bashing ,i said posts often end up breeder bashing before they have been given the phone call & given the chance to deal with the issue .

[Rebanne]

I thought the plan was to contact the breeder when they had more of a diagnosis? That sounds fair to me. At the moment it could possibly be (as suggested) an environmental cause of the pup chewing and swallowing something causing an internal bleeding in which case it's not really a breeder problem.

No it's not a breeders problem if the puppy ate something it shouldn't in the new owners care but, you know, good breeders do actually love their babies even after they have been sold to new families. The love and concern doesn't just shut off like turning a tap. Good breeders care.

[Guest donatella]

Of course and the plan was to contact the breeder when they had a final diagnosis though?

[Dogsfevr]

Of course and the plan was to contact the breeder when they had a final diagnosis though?

So how long should they wait before told??

You don't get it which is fine but good breeders like to be told & kept informed so they can assist or give advice & help with the issues current not when its to late.

If its an issue of concern the breeder may need to call other owners from that litter & inform them of an issue .Thats what good breeders do .

Edited July 3, 2013 by showdog

[RiverStar-Aura]

Grommit it's so hard going through something like this, especially when you go out of your way to find good, ethical breeders. I really hope things work out for your darling puppy

The poor breeder too -- they must be devastated. To send a pup off to a new home only to hear it's become so sick my be heartbreaking. I feel for everyone involved with this pup

[RiverStar-Aura]

You wont like this - but Send Her Back.

From information supplied she is currently not healthy.

You may love her, and you will miss her when she goes back. But you can replace her with a healthy pup.

You have 10 - 15 years of life ahead with your dog ..... having a sick one is not an option, or enjoyable. Take up the breeder's offer while you can.

Let the breeder deal with it. None of the 3 options the vet has suggested will have an excellent outcome, imho.

What would you do to the puppy if she was returned to you - would you fix her up or PTS?? I understand where you are coming from but it's hard to seperate emotions- what if she is healed with no more probs?? Our older staffy has had an infection in the same area years ago and she is fine and still kicking.

It's hard to know whether the pup would be fixed or PTS if sent back to the breeder. I'm sure, like you, the pup's breeder would take everything into account the do what's best for the puppy. Breeders do not make the decision to PTS a puppy lightly. There seems to be stigma around dog breeders that they just PTS puppies for the sake of it.

I am not a breeder but I've been in these forums long enough to know that all the breeders here love their puppies so much and don't take any decisions regarding their lives lightly.

Keep an open dialogue with your breeder about the pup's progress -- they seem to be very helpful and loving!

[Fit for a King]

I have been on both sides of this equation........had a puppy be diagnosed with something unexpected 6 months after sale...I absolutely wanted to know and ensured owners and puppy received what they needed. The owners did not want to return her...fair enough. They keep me informed how she is travelling and so far so good.

I purchased a puppy before Xmas...started displaying symptoms which were diagnosed as a serious genetic issue.....breeder really didn't want to know...begrudgingly has returned part of the price of the puppy but was far more interestred in me returning him to her for her to PTS...I suspect so noone would know he existed. I doubt she has warned the other people with littermates two of whom I believe are showing and planning to breed despite my imploring her to do so before it is too late...and then there's the pup she kept and will breed with....I've spoken to everyone I can to try to stop her breeding this on but I think my efforts are for nought....my boy continues to receive treatment and is lockdown to stop him reinjuring the surgery site...I am thousands out of pocket but will try to get him best quality of life I can...he will never be bred and never rehomed.....

[Yonjuro]

Thanks guys - vet has advised that puppy is def anemic and they suspect either a bleed in the bowel, bowel infection or her little body is not replenishing her own red blood cells. Still waiting on more results though, Have spoken to the breeder she was really good - has offered to refund cost of puppy on it's return or to put money towards vet bills. We don't want to give her back if she can be healed at a resonable cost for all - prob we have now - where to draw the line???

I think this post posted here earlier seems to have been missed by some???

The OP HAS contacted the breeder.

The OP wants to keep the puppy.

The OP has come here for advice on the these issues and where to draw the line regarding the health of the puppy.