dasha Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Hi there, I am trying to help a work colleague look for a labrador pup (yellow female). It will be raised in the family home and then when she is old enough, she will be trained as an assistance dog. My colleague has MS and is in a wheelchair and so she would like to start the process now of an assistance dog to help her in the future. The family has had dogs before and family used to show dogs so are a knowledgeable dog home. She was thinking a working line labrador would be better in some aspects and that is her preference. She wouldn't want the highest drive pup in a litter but a working bred litter is her preference. If anyone can recommend any breeders or triallers that may be able to help, it would be much appreciated. She is not wanting a coated breed so not Goldens or anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Have you contacted DOL member Lablover? From memory she breeds working line Labs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 My friends breed dogs used in the assistance programme but they aren't working lines at all . There dogs are used in retrieving trials ,guide dogs & assistance dogs . The Lab club should be able to suggest good working breeders that still have sensible dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepe001 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I recommend working labs from Firefield in Tassy. The breeder, Barry Baker, is a successful dog trainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katdogs Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Tapua's dogs often go to work - defense, assistance. She also loves a chat about Labs so would be worth a call :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megan_ Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Does she want a working line lab (aka field bred) or one from a breeder that produces good assistance dogs? I'd imagine they would have very different traits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Does she want a working line lab (aka field bred) or one from a breeder that produces good assistance dogs? I'd imagine they would have very different traits. Yes. This. Definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I think a working line lab may be too much dog for the job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverStar-Aura Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I was reading up about the dogs used as guide dogs and from what I remember reading, they prefer a much calmer temperament due to the job they're required to perform eg ignoring a lot of their surroundings, which can get quite distracting. I understand assistance dogs and guide dogs perform different jobs, but I really do think a calmer dog would be more suitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I'll second contacting Tapua... awesome dogs! T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*kirty* Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Yes guide digs and assistance dogs are selected fir calm, stable temps. Whereas the customs dogs are more like working line Labs and are bred for their drive. It's like comparing apples and oranges. I wouldn't want to live with a customs dog lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenluv Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Yes guide digs and assistance dogs are selected fir calm, stable temps. Whereas the customs dogs are more like working line Labs and are bred for their drive. It's like comparing apples and oranges. I wouldn't want to live with a customs dog lol. totally agree, I have been around both retrieveing (working line) dogs and my daughter had a service dog, no way would a true working dog be able to stay calm for as long as needed in an asisstance dog as Kirty said they are apples and oranges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixeduppup Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I've met both, there is an amazing difference in their energy levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Back in the guide dog training days we had a Lab that failed big time as a guide dog, turned out to be a fantastic drug dog. Blotted his reputation a fair bit by grabbing the briefcase off the aide to a very important international political figure. Nope, never found out what was actually in that briefcase :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Back in the guide dog training days we had a Lab that failed big time as a guide dog, turned out to be a fantastic drug dog. Blotted his reputation a fair bit by grabbing the briefcase off the aide to a very important international political figure. Nope, never found out what was actually in that briefcase :laugh: Love it! :laugh: Had my suitcase used in a training scenario for a young Lab at an airport once. Of all people to ask and they got me!!!! It was awesome - the dog was learning "intelligent disobedience" and you could just about see him swearing at his handler :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasha Posted June 27, 2013 Author Share Posted June 27, 2013 Thanks guys. Will let her know. She doesn't want a show line lab she said. She said she wanted a dog with lines that are very trainable and bred to work with you, not a show dog line. Will def look into the suggestions here and let her know. Thanks so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovemesideways Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Thanks guys. Will let her know. She doesn't want a show line lab she said. She said she wanted a dog with lines that are very trainable and bred to work with you, not a show dog line. Will def look into the suggestions here and let her know. Thanks so much guide dog have specific lines that they buy pups from, I would have a look at these :) My boy Riddick is from http://www.dogzonline.com.au/breeds/member.asp?name=SANDAKHAN and he looks very working line. http://www.degellabradors.com/ is another breeder I would highly recommend, she often sells puppies to guide dogs (my mums dog Rover comes from here and is fantastic, 3 of his siblings are now working guide dogs :)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) Thanks guys. Will let her know. She doesn't want a show line lab she said. She said she wanted a dog with lines that are very trainable and bred to work with you, not a show dog line. Will def look into the suggestions here and let her know. Thanks so much Show lines may not have the drive that working lines do, but Labradors in themselves are very trainable and live to please their people, including show line Labs!! Edit to add: I often comment that my show line Lab would have made an excellent assistance dog. She is calm around the home, she closes doors, brings me items, very trainable to do most tasks around the home that an assistance dog would be trained to do. My other Lab, though not certain what her lines are as she's a rescue, is a complete nutter and would make a terrible assistance dog. I vote the same as the others, calmer temperaments are more suited to assistance dogs! Edited June 28, 2013 by RubyStar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teebs Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I'll second contacting Tapua... awesome dogs! T. I'll 3rd it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisovar Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) I don't just don't see where people get the idea that show bred dogs of any breed are untrainable head cases....total bunkum! You get what you put in. A hard wired dog may be totally unsuitable, also a working Lab should be a calm steady dog that has plenty of down time waiting to be asked to perform its role, no use to a hunter if the dog is a nut case that is unsafe around other dogs or shooters with guns. Edited June 28, 2013 by Crisovar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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