melzawelza Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 A question I can't answer in my head... why would 'the dogfighters' be marking gates with paint, ribbons etc etc when there are constant news stories freaking about it all. Why draw attention to themselves while doing it... why draw attention to yourselves walking down the street later when you're stealing the dogs checking every gate for a tiny mark?? Why not just make a note of the addresses that have dogs that you want?? It makes no sense... yes that is odd. How much easier would it be to just text an address, rather than physically place a little ribbon. Yep, I just can't fathom that people committing an illegal act (stealing a dog) to do another illegal act (dogfighting), would risk being seen/noticed in such a way (TWICE - once putting the ribbons on, and then a second time trawling through the streets finding them)........ when they could just text an address. I mean in this case if it actually was to steal the dogs they've now been foiled - the owner has noticed and will presumably be keeping the dogs inside or something like that. So they lose the dogs. It just makes no sense, and I haven't seen any evidence other than people getting upset on facebook that such marks are anything to do with dog thefts or dog fighting. Perhaps the ribbon is for another party to identify the address. It is possible that the ribbon 'installer' is out and about scouting. Yes but why not just wander around scouting, note down the addresses that have the dogs you want and text those addresses through to the other party? Why hang around in the street suspiciously on two separate occasions if you don't need to? Especially if you're involved in dogfighting which has big repercussions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodoggies2001 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 A question I can't answer in my head... why would 'the dogfighters' be marking gates with paint, ribbons etc etc when there are constant news stories freaking about it all. Why draw attention to themselves while doing it... why draw attention to yourselves walking down the street later when you're stealing the dogs checking every gate for a tiny mark?? Why not just make a note of the addresses that have dogs that you want?? It makes no sense... yes that is odd. How much easier would it be to just text an address, rather than physically place a little ribbon. Yep, I just can't fathom that people committing an illegal act (stealing a dog) to do another illegal act (dogfighting), would risk being seen/noticed in such a way (TWICE - once putting the ribbons on, and then a second time trawling through the streets finding them)........ when they could just text an address. I mean in this case if it actually was to steal the dogs they've now been foiled - the owner has noticed and will presumably be keeping the dogs inside or something like that. So they lose the dogs. It just makes no sense, and I haven't seen any evidence other than people getting upset on facebook that such marks are anything to do with dog thefts or dog fighting. Perhaps the ribbon is for another party to identify the address. It is possible that the ribbon 'installer' is out and about scouting. Yes but why not just wander around scouting, note down the addresses that have the dogs you want and text those addresses through to the other party? Why hang around in the street suspiciously on two separate occasions if you don't need to? Especially if you're involved in dogfighting which has big repercussions. I guess you'll have to ask the person in question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 sure it's not for paperboys or junkmail deliverers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 A question I can't answer in my head... why would 'the dogfighters' be marking gates with paint, ribbons etc etc when there are constant news stories freaking about it all. Why draw attention to themselves while doing it... why draw attention to yourselves walking down the street later when you're stealing the dogs checking every gate for a tiny mark?? Why not just make a note of the addresses that have dogs that you want?? It makes no sense... yes that is odd. How much easier would it be to just text an address, rather than physically place a little ribbon. I admit these questions are going round in my head as well. MUP's friend did say that the ribbon wasn't easy to spot. I guess the spotter puts the mark where the casual observer would not notice it, but the person who is doing the stealing/robbing/whatever knows what to look for. Even if people are just jumping on the band wagon and getting their kicks out of frightening people, they would be pretty damned successful. :mad Slaes of CCTV cameras will skyrocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCresties Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 A question I can't answer in my head... why would 'the dogfighters' be marking gates with paint, ribbons etc etc when there are constant news stories freaking about it all. Why draw attention to themselves while doing it... why draw attention to yourselves walking down the street later when you're stealing the dogs checking every gate for a tiny mark?? Why not just make a note of the addresses that have dogs that you want?? It makes no sense... yes that is odd. How much easier would it be to just text an address, rather than physically place a little ribbon. Yep, I just can't fathom that people committing an illegal act (stealing a dog) to do another illegal act (dogfighting), would risk being seen/noticed in such a way (TWICE - once putting the ribbons on, and then a second time trawling through the streets finding them)........ when they could just text an address. I mean in this case if it actually was to steal the dogs they've now been foiled - the owner has noticed and will presumably be keeping the dogs inside or something like that. So they lose the dogs. It just makes no sense, and I haven't seen any evidence other than people getting upset on facebook that such marks are anything to do with dog thefts or dog fighting. Perhaps the ribbon is for another party to identify the address. It is possible that the ribbon 'installer' is out and about scouting. Yes but why not just wander around scouting, note down the addresses that have the dogs you want and text those addresses through to the other party? Why hang around in the street suspiciously on two separate occasions if you don't need to? Especially if you're involved in dogfighting which has big repercussions. Have you ever watched 'The Wire' - possibly to avoid traceability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Sending a text message is an evidence. Even if the message is deleted it is still traceable. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diva Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) Yep, I just can't fathom that people committing an illegal act (stealing a dog) to do another illegal act (dogfighting), would risk being seen/noticed in such a way (TWICE - once putting the ribbons on, and then a second time trawling through the streets finding them)........ when they could just text an address. I mean in this case if it actually was to steal the dogs they've now been foiled - the owner has noticed and will presumably be keeping the dogs inside or something like that. So they lose the dogs. It just makes no sense, and I haven't seen any evidence other than people getting upset on facebook that such marks are anything to do with dog thefts or dog fighting. Perhaps the ribbon is for another party to identify the address. It is possible that the ribbon 'installer' is out and about scouting. Yes but why not just wander around scouting, note down the addresses that have the dogs you want and text those addresses through to the other party? Why hang around in the street suspiciously on two separate occasions if you don't need to? Especially if you're involved in dogfighting which has big repercussions. Have you ever watched 'The Wire' - possibly to avoid traceability? I still think the risk of actually being spotted, either placing the ribbon or looking for it, would be much greater. My curious neighbours would have that spotted in an instant. Edited June 25, 2013 by Diva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burkes Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Yep, I just can't fathom that people committing an illegal act (stealing a dog) to do another illegal act (dogfighting), would risk being seen/noticed in such a way (TWICE - once putting the ribbons on, and then a second time trawling through the streets finding them)........ when they could just text an address. I mean in this case if it actually was to steal the dogs they've now been foiled - the owner has noticed and will presumably be keeping the dogs inside or something like that. So they lose the dogs. It just makes no sense, and I haven't seen any evidence other than people getting upset on facebook that such marks are anything to do with dog thefts or dog fighting. Perhaps the ribbon is for another party to identify the address. It is possible that the ribbon 'installer' is out and about scouting. Yes but why not just wander around scouting, note down the addresses that have the dogs you want and text those addresses through to the other party? Why hang around in the street suspiciously on two separate occasions if you don't need to? Especially if you're involved in dogfighting which has big repercussions. Have you ever watched 'The Wire' - possibly to avoid traceability? I still think the risk of actually being spotted, either placing the ribbon or looking for it, would be much greater. My curious neighbours would have that spotted in an instant. yeah, and would the stealer really be expected to drive randomly around streets hoping to spot a tiny ribbon thats been hidden whilst in the dark and trying to not look suspicious. I can hardly find a house number when I need to and I know what street I'm looking for. Imagine trying to find a hidden ribbon that could be anywhere in a suburb??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I still think the risk of actually being spotted, either placing the ribbon or looking for it, would be much greater. The chances of being noticed would be slim people in this day & age often don't notice many things around us & it would be very easy to place a ribbon & not have anyone think twice about what they where doing . I would imagine they are aware of the address but the ribbon confirms the correct house they would now where it is placed . There smart people when it comes to things like this. It is also common for burglaries people marking houses of those that work . As an example of people doing nothing. We had a roo in our street severely injured ,the council couldn't use there guns at that stage so they called the police in. An unmarked car turned up,3 gun shots & that car went off. The council guy & my mum & friend where in the bush placing the roo in a body bag. I was watching & it astounded me that something that was so obviously gun shots & if you looked out side the 3 people looked as guilty as anything & not one person phoned the police,rang neighbours to see if they noticed anything >zilch so infact come to our street to commit crimes cause no one does anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diva Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) I still think the risk of actually being spotted, either placing the ribbon or looking for it, would be much greater. The chances of being noticed would be slim people in this day & age often don't notice many things around us & it would be very easy to place a ribbon & not have anyone think twice about what they where doing . I would imagine they are aware of the address but the ribbon confirms the correct house they would now where it is placed . There smart people when it comes to things like this. It is also common for burglaries people marking houses of those that work . As an example of people doing nothing. We had a roo in our street severely injured ,the council couldn't use there guns at that stage so they called the police in. An unmarked car turned up,3 gun shots & that car went off. The council guy & my mum & friend where in the bush placing the roo in a body bag. I was watching & it astounded me that something that was so obviously gun shots & if you looked out side the 3 people looked as guilty as anything & not one person phoned the police,rang neighbours to see if they noticed anything >zilch so infact come to our street to commit crimes cause no one does anything LOL, you need my neighbours. They would notice! I still think confirming an address with ribbons is very odd in this day and age. It does play into people's fears though, by leaving something for them to find. I wonder if that is actually the point. Edited June 25, 2013 by Diva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazyWal Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 They don't always use ribbons they use stickers as well. There was a case here where a girl had the lock cut on her side gate and her two large dogs missing while she was at work, several days after they went missing she noticed a yellow sticker on the front of her letterbox. Now thankfully I have very observant neighbours and I can be a bit of a Dorrie myself but right now at 4.45pm it's cold and my curtains are closed so anyone could be walking around and I wouldn't see them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trifecta Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Maybe they were legit & marking underground cables? If anyone parks outside our property or along the lane, I make a point of noting down the details of the vehicle including rego & politely ask them if they need help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Rusty Bucket Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Around here, underground cables, water and gas pipes get marked out with different coloured spray paint. Ribbons would be easy to see in the day time when most people are at work. And they don't leave evidence trails like txt and emails do. Though I think if police had reason to search the 4WD and found a bunch of coloured ribbons or stickers - that matched the car thief ring in the area, they'd still have a lot of explaining to do. It's just a bit harder to prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantis Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Did she take the ribbon to the police? They could check it for finger prints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griff Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Around here, underground cables, water and gas pipes get marked out with different coloured spray paint. That's the same here But the worker's mostly use Yellow and they sure make a large mark for all to see . Pretty darn scarey so many dog's missing if they all escaped from yard's would be a heck of a lot roaming , as for my area I have not see a loose dog for months ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 It's just facebook hype and bullcrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixeduppup Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 It's just facebook hype and bullcrap. My friend isn't lying and has reported it to the police and is very upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Yes dog fighting happens, yes dogs are stolen. Dogs are stolen because people can't be bothered to earn a $ and pay for one, it's much cheaper and easier to steal someone else's. They are also stolen because they are suitable for breeding, why buy yourself a dog or bitch when you can take someone else's. Dog fighting exists but not to the extent that this facebook scaremongering makes out. Bait dogs aren't big or vicious, any old dog will do for that, so it's unlikely your friends dogs would be targeted for that reason. The best thing a dog owner can do is make sure there dogs do not have access to gates and fences that face the street. Keep them behind your house and out of public view. Lock all gates and kennel runs when you are not home. Perhaps it's time for people to stop spreading the hysteria and we'll see less stickers, ribbons and the like on fences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimax Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Around here, underground cables, water and gas pipes get marked out with different coloured spray paint. That's the same here But the worker's mostly use Yellow and they sure make a large mark for all to see . Ausgrid don't use ribbon, We spray the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 It's just facebook hype and bullcrap. My friend isn't lying and has reported it to the police and is very upset. What did the police say and/or do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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