R S P C A Seeking Help .

[persephone]

LINK TO STORY (with an image)

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t is claimed that rabbits being hung up alive was an ongoing occurrence in the area, but when RSPCA inspectors visited the area the animals were already dead.

"There are humane control methods for eradicating rabbits, but some methods of killing them are far from humane," RSPCA chief executive David van Ooran said.

"These animals are no different from pet dogs or cats, in terms of their capacity to suffer and experience pain and fear."

I wonder what pleasure those doing this get from it ?

Edited June 20, 2013 by persephone

[WreckitWhippet]

or are the rspca getting it completely wrong.

It's not uncommon to hang carcasses from fences and trees, when you've gone hunting and aren't going to take the feral animals home

[persephone]

It's not uncommon to hang carcasses from fences and trees, when you've gone hunting and aren't going to take the feral animals home

D'oh .. yes I should have thunk!!

a wriggling rabbit would probably dislodge barbed wire from ears ......

[OSoSwift]

Yep I doubt a bunny would stay hooked on a barb fence if not already dead.

Personally I have always found the hanging of dead creatures on fences a bit odd and gross, but that's just me.

[mantis]

Yep I doubt a bunny would stay hooked on a barb fence if not already dead.

Personally I have always found the hanging of dead creatures on fences a bit odd and gross, but that's just me.

Nope I agree, but unfortunately when I was a kid, we used to go hunting & killing snakes & we would nail them to the fence of the corner house.

I changed my ways after we killed a Tiger snake & then saw a baby one, the others were going to kill it, but I wouldn't let them & I picked it up & took it home. I kept it for over a month, before an adult friend, took it off me & drowned it in hot water, RIP little snake.

[WreckitWhippet]

It's a more commonly done thing if you have been out on someone's property shooting, you usually hang them on a fence close the a gate where the owner is likely to see them. It's a kind of thanks for letting me use your property and also a message of how many you shot or trapped.

[~Anne~]

Surely the ranger could tell if the animal was shot though before it was hung on the fence. Maybe trapping leaves less marks but even then the animals neck would have to be broken to kill it?

I would think that they are investigating the cause of death. They cant be that stupid.

[Steve]

it sounds better to say they are strung up when still alive but it would be hard to do and certainly hard to keep them there until they died.

Shooters around here hang them to let the farmer who owns the property know they are doing their job but it also brings the foxes in the next night too.

Honestly I doubt they are alive when they string them up and I do think they have it wrong. Cant see how they would know if they were alive or dead when they are hung without forensics.

[_PL_]

If that's an actual photo of the rabbit.... it would be next to impossible to hold on to a live wild rabbit while you hang it by the tips of it's ears and expect it to stay there like that. I just can't see how that would work.

[Diva]

If that's an actual photo of the rabbit.... it would be next to impossible to hold on to a live wild rabbit while you hang it by the tips of it's ears and expect it to stay there like that. I just can't see how that would work.

No neither can I, all reads very implausibly.

[OSoSwift]

The power they have in their back legs can snap their spines if they kick while being held around their chest with no support for their hindquarters. There is no way a rabbit would hang like that until it dies unless it was comatose.

And honestly if the RSPCA had any idea they would know this or have considered it. They are trying to rustle up more donations by appealing to the general publics empathy.

Edited June 24, 2013 by OSoSwift

[~Anne~]

I seriously doubt the RSPCA would deliberately create a lie to encourage donations. Honestly, whilst they may have areas for concern that are still bound by laws and the laws that protect people against fraud.

Have their marketing people used emotive stories or pictures to garner support, absolutely. All charitable orgs do this including canine rescues. But deliberate fraud is another thing altogether.

Sometimes I wonder what ever happened to common sense on this forum.

[OSoSwift]

I didn't say they deliberately created a lie, I daresay somebody has reported what they have found or think they have found. The fact there is a news story on this is what I think has been done to peak peoples interest and therefore secure donations.

[_PL_]

Or it could just be an old or 'close enough' photo the newspaper put there because they didn't have one. :)

Edited June 24, 2013 by Powerlegs

[Alyosha]

Media aren't always known for using actual photos - stock ones are pretty common.

Seeing as none of us know what information the actual complaints consisted of it's pretty useless to jump to critical conclusions.

[mantis]

I seriously doubt the RSPCA would deliberately create a lie to encourage donations. Honestly, whilst they may have areas for concern that are still bound by laws and the laws that protect people against fraud.

Have their marketing people used emotive stories or pictures to garner support, absolutely. All charitable orgs do this including canine rescues. But deliberate fraud is another thing altogether.

Sometimes I wonder what ever happened to common sense on this forum.

Really? You have more faith in this corrupt organisation than I do.

[~Anne~]

I seriously doubt the RSPCA would deliberately create a lie to encourage donations. Honestly, whilst they may have areas for concern that are still bound by laws and the laws that protect people against fraud.

Have their marketing people used emotive stories or pictures to garner support, absolutely. All charitable orgs do this including canine rescues. But deliberate fraud is another thing altogether.

Sometimes I wonder what ever happened to common sense on this forum.

Really? You have more faith in this corrupt organisation than I do.

Maybe you need to bold the sentence that follows and absorb both. I have faith in the laws that protect people against fraud.

Public statements made fraudulently make it even easier for detection and prosecution.

It doesn't matter if you support or don't support this particular organisation there is no point throwing around loose and baseless accusations.

And I'll reiterate this: Sometimes I wonder what ever happened to common sense on this forum.

[Steve]

I dont believe they would deliberately tell lies and it may be about how the reporter wrote it too but either way from what I know about rabbits in my opinion the chances that someone is pinning them to a fence like that while they are still alive are remote.

Reality is this sort of thing gets them more donations and why wouldn't they use it? they didn't make the claim the person who contacted them and alerted them to it did. They simply investigated it and say the rabbits were dead when they saw them.

[OSoSwift]

I dont believe they would deliberately tell lies and it may be about how the reporter wrote it too but either way from what I know about rabbits in my opinion the chances that someone is pinning them to a fence like that while they are still alive are remote.

Reality is this sort of thing gets them more donations and why wouldn't they use it? they didn't make the claim the person who contacted them and alerted them to it did. They simply investigated it and say the rabbits were dead when they saw them.

Yes Steve that is what I was getting at. I do not believe they would make up a false story but they will use it as a chance to get more donations.