Mila's Mum Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 I came across this NZ rescue group while looking for something completely unrelated to rescue - haven't seen anything similar, so thought it might be of interest http://www.chaineddognz.org/default.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJean Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 I guess they are bored and have nothing else to do with their time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mila's Mum Posted June 1, 2013 Author Share Posted June 1, 2013 I guess they are bored and have nothing else to do with their time Did you actually bother to read what they do, and what they have achieved? What an inane comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 What a fantastic cause, looking through the wall of shame tears your heart out for those poor dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*kirty* Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 (edited) While I agree that most of those dogs were being kept in very poor conditions, some of them had nice kennels and beds and fresh water - the only issue was that they were chained up. And I don't have a problem with chaining a dog if it is done carefully and the dog is looked after. Edited June 1, 2013 by *kirty* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I guess they are bored and have nothing else to do with their time Yeah rescue people don't have to work or care for their families so they like to think up worthless causes like getting dogs off chains and into family homes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mila's Mum Posted June 2, 2013 Author Share Posted June 2, 2013 While I agree that most of those dogs were being kept in very poor conditions, some of them had nice kennels and beds and fresh water - the only issue was that they were chained up. And I don't have a problem with chaining a dog if it is done carefully and the dog is looked after. This is the group's definition of a Chained Dog - Chained dogs are neglected or abused dogs or puppies, that are permanently chained 24 hours 7 days a week. They exist in most areas of NZ but there is a particular problem in specific areas of Auckland where we currently concentrate our efforts. Typically this means: •Water is rarely provided •The dog has little suitable shelter •Food is provided when and if the "owner" remembers •The dog is never de-fleaed or de-wormed •The dog is not registered, vaccinated, microchipped or de-sexed due to lack of funds therefore it is chained or locked out of sight. •Faeces are rarely removed from underfoot •They have little or no human interaction •They are never exercised and the owners have no collars or leads to do so •Generation after generation see chaining as "normal" •There is total ignorance of what a dog needs As a result the average chained dog's lifespan is approx 18 months due to a combination of things such as long-term dehydration, malnutrition, pest infestation, blood poisioning, multiple pregnancies, lack of exercise and no medical attention or care. Going by the shame file and the success stories, they are not targeting dogs that are well looked after, and only occasionally chained. Personally, I think it's wonderful that a group of people are going to so much effort to help those that are being subjected to a living hell. In most cases, it's probably a blessing the dog's lifespan is only about 18 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PL_ Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 (edited) While I agree that most of those dogs were being kept in very poor conditions, some of them had nice kennels and beds and fresh water - the only issue was that they were chained up. And I don't have a problem with chaining a dog if it is done carefully and the dog is looked after. That seems to be top of the list, education owners and getting better care, vetwork, socialisation etc. Then surrender if the owner will decide it's all too hard. So it doesn't really say but the nicer setups might be properties they were working on. The bit I don't understand is where the dogs are - killed for non registration. I guess they got off their chain and were unclaimed? edited because I can't spell Edited June 2, 2013 by Powerlegs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mila's Mum Posted June 2, 2013 Author Share Posted June 2, 2013 The bit I don't understand is where the dogs are - killed for non registration. I guess they got off their chain and were unclaimed? edited because I can't spell Have a look in the In Loving Memory section - that has more info on how they are killed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PL_ Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 The bit I don't understand is where the dogs are - killed for non registration. I guess they got off their chain and were unclaimed? edited because I can't spell Have a look in the In Loving Memory section - that has more info on how they are killed Thanks MM. x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 While I agree that most of those dogs were being kept in very poor conditions, some of them had nice kennels and beds and fresh water - the only issue was that they were chained up. And I don't have a problem with chaining a dog if it is done carefully and the dog is looked after. If you read the information on these dogs they are not just looking over the back fence and making up stories on the care they are or are not receiving. They are talking to the owners who themselves are admitting to how they are treating these dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Chaining 24/7 is no life I chain dogs when necessary but only short term or longer periods with an end goal in mind - ie training Maremma etc. The property down the road has a dear little dog (JRT) in a tiny run 24/7. She never, ever, ever gets out. I see the kids playing ball right in front of her run, inside a fenced off garden - yet the dog remains in her run. They've been reported by other neighbours and visited by the RSPCA but they aren't breaking any laws. Apparently their last dog was chained 24/7 so they decided a run would be less offensive for the locals with this dog *roll eyes* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trifecta Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 (edited) This is a subject close to my heart. A few years ago I negotiated the rescue of an 8yo kelpie bitch who had been chained without respite for 6 years & 7 months. Her 'home' was a wooden crate in a paddock, about 50 metres from a shearing shed & 100 metres from a little travelled road. She had no bedding, while her water & food were topped up a couple of days a week Edited June 2, 2013 by trifecta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterpaws Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 There is a husky in Jilliby who is chained 24/7, so disgusting and the talk of everyone on the community because they all feel so sorry for him He's on 3 or so acres and they have built a house yard with colorbond but this poor bloody dog is still chained to a kennel in the front yard. He can move about 3 or 4 m around the kennel But no cruelty cause he has shade, shelter and water :mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mila's Mum Posted June 2, 2013 Author Share Posted June 2, 2013 A few years ago I negotiated the rescue of an 8yo kelpie bitch who had been chained without respite for 6 years & 7 months. It must have been a great relief to have secured her freedom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mila's Mum Posted June 2, 2013 Author Share Posted June 2, 2013 There is a husky in Jilliby who is chained 24/7, so disgusting and the talk of everyone on the community because they all feel so sorry for him Is it worth contacting the NZ group to get some ideas on how the owners might be approached and given guidance on how to provide him a better life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterpaws Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Jilliby is in NSW. Unfortunately the owners won't listen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbie_tabbie Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Chaining 24/7 is no life I chain dogs when necessary but only short term or longer periods with an end goal in mind - ie training Maremma etc. The property down the road has a dear little dog (JRT) in a tiny run 24/7. She never, ever, ever gets out. I see the kids playing ball right in front of her run, inside a fenced off garden - yet the dog remains in her run. They've been reported by other neighbours and visited by the RSPCA but they aren't breaking any laws. Apparently their last dog was chained 24/7 so they decided a run would be less offensive for the locals with this dog *roll eyes* This sounds just like the situation my little JRT came from... After all of her four years spent like that she was terrified of the world (being a jack this was expressed in barking, growling, attacking everything ; p). She turned around so quickly though, with a behaviourist and training, and is now a happy little cuddlebum. So if the familes give these guys up, there is great hope for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mita Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 (edited) The Qld Animal Care & Management Act includes a specific reference to dogs being restrained as in being chained or tied up. There's a limit to the number of consecutive hours that they can be kept restrained. Also says water, food etc has to be available. I notice this NZ group says their law doesn't address specific limits to time spent being chained/tied up. Only refers to shelter, food & water. So they're also wisely setting up a petition for a change in the law. Edited June 4, 2013 by mita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trifecta Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 A few years ago I negotiated the rescue of an 8yo kelpie bitch who had been chained without respite for 6 years & 7 months. It must have been a great relief to have secured her freedom It was an even greater relief when her behavioural assessment showed she was perfectly rehomeable & hadn't gone stark raving mad. Naturally she was very territorial, but she found a home with a knowledgeable family & became a best mate to a blind dog. I cried when she was diagnosed with mammary tumours at the age of 10, but she is still hanging in there, she is a tough old bird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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