Attacked By Dog

[Loving my Oldies]

Congratulations, Alyosha. I certainly hope the older girl can follow through. The rangers seem pretty switched on as well.

Hopefully everyone and the dog will start to have better lives, thanks to you. You have paid though in stress and fear, but shone through.

[melzawelza]

Thanks all. Much appreciated. Diva you got it - poor dog is a product of his environment alright.

Yes, dog is in ACT. Attack is not as comprehensively defined in the ACT Act as in NSW, but I think this was pretty cut and dried. Although no skin broken the biting and grabbing was still there. Possibly lucky my flapping long cardigan copped it instead of my arms (which I had up out of reach).

Update. Contacted rangers this morning. They were very, very good. They asked what outcome I was seeking and I said I hoped they could talk to the owner and assess whether he is willing or able to make suitable adjustments to dog's training, socialisation and confinement. I talked about the dog's lack of training and socialisation, and him being alone with the kids so potentially protective. I also made mention of him being important to the kids, but that father may not understand the potential problems his behaviour could lead to.

They visited within hours, poor teenage daughter was home so was expecting it. They spelled out the potential offences involved, unregistered dog, dog attacking on private property, dog attacking on public property, dog not under control etc etc. They have asked for the father to contact and there will be ongoing interaction.

Dog has been assessed by vet and I don't know the outcome of that. Hopefully at minimum some worming and better feeding. I don't know yet what will be the outcome for him.

Of course father blamed me when it was all relayed to him. This is the disappointing part - there won't be learning on his part. But I think there is other intervention going on with kids and stuff, so he may be a little under pressure. Which in this case I think is a good thing. I think older daughter may be starting to accept that situation is untenable in so many ways. Possibly the fact that I have stood up and reported, and action has been taken, might help her gain some courage to stand up and ask for help in other ways. She understands that the dog is not necessarily at fault, but his living conditions aren't good enough, and he is not a happy well adjusted dog.

Great Rangers. Always so good to hear.

You've done the right thing. Lets hope there's a good result for the family, the dog and the community as a whole.

[Kirislin]

Astounding.

There are simply no words for what you have done.

[Salukifan]

Astounding.

There are simply no words for what you have done.

I THINK that was a compliment. :)

[Christina]

Sleepy brain Tralee. Didn't mean for all those quotes to be in the post. Its the last bit that puzzled me. This sentence

If you want to be friends with the owner of the dog its your duty to intervene.

How would this make them friends ?

Well I reiterate:

Certainly, if I had gone to collect a child and the dog went on such a rampage, I would be meeting my obligation for Social Justice to the full extent. 
It was and is totally unacceptable. 

Also, if you want to be friends with the owner of the dog, then it is your duty to intervene.
It is the moral and ethical thing to do 

I don't know what your defintion of 'friend' is or what your value system is either but I suspect it may be different to mine.

My friends simply do not do things that they shouldn't.

Therefore, if I am to be friends with the dysfunctional family, and as Catholic I am obligated to it, then I am duty bound to offer and provide assistance to the owner of the dog.

Now this situation is extreme and totally unacceptable.

It calls for an extraordinary response.

It will take a superhuman effort to get the right result.

Regards

Ok I get it now.

My value system is very different than yours. My friends are human & sometimes they do things they shouldn't. I allow a reasonable tolerance of differences, beliefs & religions but have some boundaries that if crossed would break the friendship of course.

The situation is extreme & unacceptable & has now been reported & is being resolved however this will not make them ever become friends in the future. If friendship was ever a possibility this has quashed it for sure.

Hope things get better for the poor dog & children. Scary stuff all round.

[Sheridan]

Astounding.

There are simply no words for what you have done.

I THINK that was a compliment. :)

How can you tell?

[Salukifan]

Astounding.

There are simply no words for what you have done.

I THINK that was a compliment. :)

How can you tell?

I'll claim a limited understanding of the dialect. :) But maybe I got it wrong.

Edited April 17, 2013 by Haredown Whippets

[Loving my Oldies]

I thought it was a compliment, but then I gave up reading any Tralee's posts over one line, as generally it hurts my head to try to work out what he is saying, so I may be wrong and he may be indulging himself again. I hope not because not many people would have handled the situation Alyoscha was in as well as she did.

[Sheridan]

I thought it was a compliment, but then I gave up reading any Tralee's posts over one line, as generally it hurts my head to try to work out what he is saying, so I may be wrong and he may be indulging himself again. I hope not because not many people would have handled the situation Alyoscha was in as well as she did.

I gave up reading entirely and blocked ages ago. The only reason I picked this up was because quoted. I also hope it was a compliment.

[Tralee]

It's not my job to teach people how to read.

The comment was made in context, and within the dialogue between the OP and myself.

[Are You Serious Jo]

It's not my job to teach people how to read.

The comment was made in context, and within the dialogue between the OP and myself.

Comedy gold tralee :laugh:

[Sheridan]

It's not my job to teach people how to read.

The comment was made in context, and within the dialogue between the OP and myself.

Comedy gold tralee :laugh:

Thus, why I blocked.

[Loving my Oldies]

It's not my job to teach people how to read.

The comment was made in context, and within the dialogue between the OP and myself.

Comedy gold tralee :laugh:

Hubris, more like it. Who cares, though.

So long as Alyosha knows others think she handled this amazingly, that is all that counts.

[Justrace]

Hopefully the dog & children will now get some help. Sad that the father can't see the situation for what it is

[Salukifan]

It's not my job to teach people how to read.

The comment was made in context, and within the dialogue between the OP and myself.

Do you ever stray into the realm of effective communication?

It's not literacy that's the issue here but people struggling to understand what you're actually on about.

Situation normal.

[raz]

It's not my job to teach people how to read.

:rofl: Oh Tralee, to quote you "I didnt know you had it in you".

Well done Alyosha. That was obviously an accident waiting to happen.

[W Sibs]

Glad to hear that you reported the incident and that the rangers were understanding about the situation. Hopefully the older girl will do something about it, despite the father being stubborn.

It was just a matter of time before something more serious will happen.

Forgot to say, glad you weren't seriously hurt with the attack.

[_PL_]

that is a seriously disturbing post #1. And could have been so much worse.

[Mrs Rusty Bucket]

I'm interpreting this

if you want to be friends with the owner of the dog, then it is your duty to intervene.

as Tralee couldn't be friends with someone who treats their dog and children in the way the person described in the opening post has. So Tralee thinks the way to be friends is to fix the problem with the dog and children neglect.

Unfortunately - back in the real world - nobody likes having their faults pointed out, and generally the way to make friends is to do things that would please the person not make them angry.

I couldn't be friends with someone who did that to their dog and children, but I wouldn't want to be either. I'd still report it.

This bit is completely ambiguous and gives no clue about whether Tralee thought the action of reporting was a good thing or a bad thing.

Astounding.

There are simply no words for what you have done.

And then writing there are no words - is self contradicting cos the words are "no words"... Which isn't quite the same as writing "I don't know how to put what I'm feeling into words". But that's still ambiguous.

And "Astounding" - is an expression of surprise - but not whether one likes the surprise or not, and it isn't clear about what the surprise is - ie that the problem got reported or that the council and other authorities actually took action to make things safer for the children. (theoretically - cos we don't know what an angry dad like that might do).

So - in context - I find some of Tralee's posts surprising and ambiguous and confusing - and not in a good way. I do think it's a bit mean to call it "comedy". This doesn't seem appropriate in a thread about neglect of pets and animals. But then again, sometimes if we didn't laugh, we'd scream, and paramedics have the worst, most insensitive (to outsiders), and repulsive jokes of all.

[mixeduppup]

Glad you did something about it Alyosha, it could have gotten a lot worse.

I hope this doesn't turn into another thread trying to decipher what Tralee really means, there's another 2 of those in action already :laugh: