Chequeredblackdog Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 I have a flirt pole and my dog loves it, but I don't think I am using it 'properly'. Is there an art to it or do you just swing it around in jerky movements? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan3 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 If your dog loves it, you are doing it right You can use it to teach things like impulse control, training in drive etc and for those purposes there is an art and a science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chequeredblackdog Posted April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted April 1, 2013 Cool! That means I'm not quite as retarded as I thought! is there any good videos etc of how to use it in drive training? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podengo Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 I'm not very good at it either, but Elsie loves it... We call it her "crack toy" haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve K9Pro Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 It really depends what you want to achieve, the flirt pole can be used as simply as spinning around, this is great fun and great physical and mental exercise for your dog. It can be a lot more than that as well, it can be used to develop drive in your dog which can be a powerful motivator. If you want to take to that level, one common mistake people use is to move and spin to get their dog into drive. The dog ends up chasing a flying and bouncing object. That can make things tricky later on, a really great way to use the flirt pole is to allow the flirt to fall on the ground and remain still. Encourage your dog to get it and when your dog moves toward the flirt, then jerk it away. What you will be doing is teaching your dog to generate a reaction in the prey rather than the prey generating a reaction in your dog. This has huge benefits over a dog that is reacting to movement (for obvious reasons). Try always play on level soft surfaces such as grass or sand, concrete, pavers, tiles etc are all dangerous. You also should run this in repetitions rather than constant chasing. So a game may have 5 or so 30 second repetitions and always finish before your dog is fatigued and you will get a stronger game each time you play! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chequeredblackdog Posted April 2, 2013 Author Share Posted April 2, 2013 Thank you Steve! I will definitely give that a go! :D * runs off to play with dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Crazy Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 (edited) Both Sonny & Stella love their Flirt Poles Although I am not the best with it either I just leave it on the ground then as soon as they go to get it, it moves. I find it really makes them both mentally & physically very tired, quite quickly. I normally just use them on the back lawn. You really don't need a lot of space to have a game with them. I play one on one & both together without any trouble. A must have toy IMHO Edited April 2, 2013 by BC Crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chequeredblackdog Posted April 2, 2013 Author Share Posted April 2, 2013 Definitely a must have! I must look like such an idiot when I use mine. (Actually when I'm with my dogs in general ) jumping around like a lunatic and making strange noises, it's all great fun! Though the amount of times I've smacked myself in the head/ face with dog toys is a bit embarrassing...... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Crazy Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Definitely a must have! I must look like such an idiot when I use mine. (Actually when I'm with my dogs in general ) jumping around like a lunatic and making strange noises, it's all great fun! Though the amount of times I've smacked myself in the head/ face with dog toys is a bit embarrassing...... :D Smacked yourself in the head :laugh: + 1. Yep..... Me too I have taken many a tumble & wacked myself around. I'm very unco at the best of times. I know I look like a complete luni as well but how much fun is it !!!! I am sure my neighbours think I am absolutely crazy as well. They here me talking to my guys like I do. "hello honey", god your beautiful, blah, blah ,blah. :laugh: Does it sound like I care. Not :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantis Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 What is a flirt pole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve K9Pro Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Flirt Pole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantis Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Flirt Pole Thanks Steve, looks good for a dog who likes to get off the couch & exercise, unfortunately Cougar's not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixeduppup Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I've used a flirt pole once or twice but never seriously. However, I currently have a dog that I would love to teach how to 'control' its natural prey drive a bit more and was wondering if I could utelise a flirt pole for that purpose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve K9Pro Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Ideally the flirt pole is great for establishing drive, then you take it to using a tug and you can then reinforce behaviours etc. this is then training in drive which is a whole concept. If you play with the flirt pole then your dog can channel or let's call it "spend" it's prey drive that way. You will get a more settled dog as you will be balancing out drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixeduppup Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 OK, may invest in one and see if I can get her more balanced in that area. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNut Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Flirt Pole Hi Steve, Do you know if k9pro will be making these available again soon? Currently unavailable at that link. Or should I contact someone else directly? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Flirt Pole Hi Steve, Do you know if k9pro will be making these available again soon? Currently unavailable at that link. Or should I contact someone else directly? Thanks Hi BCNut We have a shipment on the way so they should be available again shortly, alternatively we do have our prey drive on a stick flirt pole available; http://www.k9pro.com.au/products/Prey-Drive-on-a-stick.html As well leather bite rags; http://www.k9pro.com.au/products/Leather-Bite-Rag.html If you'd like to be notified when flirt poles will be back in stock just shoot an email to [email protected] and I'll let you know when they arrive :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNut Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Awesome thanks! - Order is in :) Do you know if the lure thingy can be changed later if it gets mangled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Awesome thanks! - Order is in :) Do you know if the lure thingy can be changed later if it gets mangled? Awesome it will be shipped ASAP :) Unfortunately it isn't detachable so it can't be replaced. Depending on what you want to use it for, as Steve mentioned earlier in the thread it is great to use to build/establish drive and then upgrade to a tug once the dog is confident with how the game works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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