Hank DDB Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) Just thought I would post this info for anyone interested. Blackmores intestinal health capsules have both of the below ingredient and nothing else added. And can be purchased at local chemists for approx $32.00 for a bottle of 90 capsules. The contents of 1 x capsule per day is a good starting point and what im using, but from my research up to 10 a day is ok. B. animalis Probably the most studied probiotic strain in dogs is B. animalis. It has been demonstrated to reduce acute diarrhea, and improve overall intestinal health. However, most dog probiotic products do not contain this strain. We believe that over time all of the formulas will start containing B. animalis because of the vast research behind this strain. Vet Ther. 2009 Fall;10(3):121-30: Clinical benefits of probiotic canine-derived Bifidobacterium animalis strain AHC7 in dogs with acute idiopathic diarrhea. Commentary: In this study B. animalis on its own reduced the resolution time in half from 6 days to 3 in dogs. Vet Microbiol. 2009 Oct 20;139(1-2):106-12. Epub 2009 May 19. Portrait of a canine probiotic Bifidobacterium animalis, from gut to gut. (Excerpt) “Bifidobacterium animalis adhered to epithelial cells, transited the murine gastrointestinal tract to high numbers and significantly reduced S. typhimurium translocation. B. animalis consumption significantly reduced the carriage of Clostridia, in particular Clostridium difficile, in dogs. This study describes the isolation and screening of canine-derived bacterial strains with commensal traits. The results demonstrate that B. animalis has significant potential for improving canine gastrointestinal health.” Commentary: Clostridium difficile is the pathogen that primarily causes diarrhea. The fact that B.animalis has such a dramatic effect on C. difficile, makes it really the number one choice for dealing with acute diarrhea. L. acidophilus L. acidophilus as been show to be especially good with use in puppies. L. acidophilus was shown to increase weigh gain/growth in canines (Note it is thought that probiotics are critical in the puppy stage also for bolstering foundational immunity). Puppies supplemented L. acidophilus were found to display less symptoms of allergies and other diseases in older years.. Edited March 25, 2013 by Hank DDB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Hmmm I wonder if this could be used in cats???? Many seem to be made for dogs and I am needing one for cats. MIght give it a go :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimax Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Sounds like you're giving this puppy an awful lot of supplements, have you considered letting him grow and build his own immune system for a while? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank DDB Posted March 25, 2013 Author Share Posted March 25, 2013 Sounds like you're giving this puppy an awful lot of supplements, have you considered letting him grow and build his own immune system for a while? It may sound like I'm giving this puppy an awful lot of supplements, Sorry I have no idea where u got that from, as I have not stated what I'm giving him! But FYI- He is on a raw diet Roo/Beef meat, specific selection of verges, and a professional supplement with every essential vit, min, amino, etc required, which is administered at the correct dose for a puppy, and I have just recently introduced these capsules to increase his stomach flora. P.s USA vets tend to be moving toward reducing unnessecary yearly vaccinations and increasing natural preventative methods such as the use of probiotics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megan_ Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Australian vets have already moved away from yearly vaccinations. The AVA. Now recommends them every 3 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyz Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Sounds like you're giving this puppy an awful lot of supplements, have you considered letting him grow and build his own immune system for a while? It may sound like I'm giving this puppy an awful lot of supplements, Sorry I have no idea where u got that from, as I have not stated what I'm giving him! But FYI- He is on a raw diet Roo/Beef meat, specific selection of verges, and a professional supplement with every essential vit, min, amino, etc required, which is administered at the correct dose for a puppy, and I have just recently introduced these capsules to increase his stomach flora. P.s USA vets tend to be moving toward reducing unnessecary yearly vaccinations and increasing natural preventative methods such as the use of probiotics. Probiotic is not going to prevent parvo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tara8430 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 My lab gets 1 of these each night i just break the capsule open and stir though her food, they have been really good for her, she had ongoing tummy troubles and skin issues these combined with a change in diet she is much much much better. She has had them since maybe October last year and still on them now ive only purchased two bottles, possibly will see how she goes without them once this bottle finishes. http://www.blackmores.com.au/products/acidophilus-bifidus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank DDB Posted March 25, 2013 Author Share Posted March 25, 2013 Totally agree it will not prevent parvovirus BUT why would you think it would? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank DDB Posted March 25, 2013 Author Share Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) That's good the AVA have that rec just a shame I had to ring 4 vets before I found one with out the old school train of thought, of vacination every year and only prescribed meds will work. Edited March 25, 2013 by Hank DDB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 just a shame I had to ring 4 vets before I found one with out the old school train of thought, of vacination every year and only prescribed meds will work. ;) could have saved yourself by asking for recommendations on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megan_ Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 The issue with the vaccs is that the manufacturer will only "guarantee" it for a year. Any vet giving the annual dose every three years is giving it off label - which exposes them to lawsuits if a dog does contract parvo between 1 and 3 years. I understand why some are hesitant as they are between a rock and a hard place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank DDB Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 just a shame I had to ring 4 vets before I found one with out the old school train of thought, of vacination every year and only prescribed meds will work. ;) could have saved yourself by asking for recommendations on here Good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westiemum Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Thanks Hank. Verrrry interesting. Will have a look next time I'm at the chemist - think it might help my westie girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewieTAG Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 I know this topic is old but am interested to know about it.. if I get this for a 15 weeks old puppy - 2 kg, how much should I be giving her? Looking at it, it has by capsule and stated children 2-6 years should take one capsule a day... should I be giving half daily? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westiemum Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Yep I'd be interested too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 You shouldn't open capsules if you can avoid it. Many things are in capsule form for a reason - to prevent the stomach acids from destroying the contents in some cases or in some cases increasing palateability so it's taken. Probiotics wont hurt to be overdosed. Just give the dog a whole capsule or get an animal tailored product like Vetafarm Probotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliwake Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 From the Blackmores website under dosage: Capsule may be opened and contents sprinkled on food or mixed with yoghurt. http://www.blackmores.com.au/products/acidophilus-bifidus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewieTAG Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 You shouldn't open capsules if you can avoid it. Many things are in capsule form for a reason - to prevent the stomach acids from destroying the contents in some cases or in some cases increasing palateability so it's taken. Probiotics wont hurt to be overdosed. Just give the dog a whole capsule or get an animal tailored product like Vetafarm Probotic. I can understand the capsule to contain it. I did see the kids Inner Heath Plus one with powder forms? I would think it might be ok to open the capsule? At the moment, I am reluctant to overdose the little one as she has just completed her first 5 days course of Metrogyl antibiotics and Baycox. She will be on her next course, 7 days later. I had a look at the pet PAW Blackmore, it says about 1gram for less than 10 kg dogs. I have the Blackmores Intestinal Health on hand at the moment and thinking I can make use of it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliwake Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 I agree with Nekhbet that a bit extra won't hurt - there's nothing harmful in a probiotic! Just go half a capsule if you're worried - it will be fine. Was the metrogyl just for the coccidia, or is there something else going on too? Our pup was just treated with the baycox and it worked fine - faecal test done several weeks later was clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewieTAG Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 From the Blackmores website under dosage: Capsule may be opened and contents sprinkled on food or mixed with yoghurt. http://www.blackmore...ophilus-bifidus yes I saw that too... it says: Features and benefits Capsule can be opened for easy dispensing to children or infants. Provides special human strains which adhere to the bowel wall and colonise the intestines. Suitable for use during pregnancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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