andrewang Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Hey guys, some of you probably remember Caesar, a 9 week old Cocker spaniel I got from a respectable breeder in Victoria. He's doing really well with his house training and such but I still got him a snuggle puppy to help him through the night. Problem now is he is very "aggressive" with the snuggle puppy. He bites and tugs and tries to tear it apart. He also humps it as it is a slightly bigger sized stuff toy. Should I remove the toy or should I just leave him be so he can direct all those emotions on the snuggle puppy. Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Take his toy awsy, humping that, someone's leg or another dog should be discouraged very early on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdie Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 That's normal puppy play behavior .Leave the toy with him and let him have fun with it.He would do this with his litter mates except the stuffed toy can't do it back to him like other puppies would.,which is part of learning through play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasels Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 There was a similar thread recently which may help you - http://www.dolforums.com.au/topic/243665-humping/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewang Posted March 13, 2013 Author Share Posted March 13, 2013 There was a similar thread recently which may help you - http://www.dolforums.com.au/topic/243665-humping/ I also wanna know if anyone have any feedbacks on the aggression shown on the toy. Is it normal behavior? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasels Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I dunno about normal but my girl does it, will shake the bed violently in her teeth between humping. It's never transferred to anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdie Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 http://puppies.about...uppies-Play.htm This may be helpful to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumabaar Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 (edited) I have many de-stuffed a toy, and my back yard is a bit of a dead toy graveyard! I have been doing some landscaping and have found many an ear, nose or foot from past toys :laugh: Quite a few of my dogs will stalk and pounce on a toy and give it a good death shake. And it has had no impact on their interactions with other animals, humans or dogs. They also hump each other but have never tried to hump me. So I wouldnt be too fussed with that behaviour either personally although they all stop I tell them too, so you can redirect by getting him to sit or drop or recall to you each time he does it and you will find that behaviour becomes less rewarding. You may also notice a pattern- one of my dogs did it when he got overwhelmed/overexcited so when I saw him humping I did some massage and calming behaviours and he stopped doing it because it wasnt necessary. I wouldn't take the toy away from him- a toy that is destroyed is much better than pulling clothes off the line, chewing shoes etc. Perhaps a few more bigger toys would be good? Just make sure their stuffing is dog safe. Edited March 13, 2013 by Jumabaar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christina Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 There was a similar thread recently which may help you - http://www.dolforums.com.au/topic/243665-humping/ I also wanna know if anyone have any feedbacks on the aggression shown on the toy. Is it normal behavior? Its normal puppy behaviour. Let the puppy play. Your puppy will not be an aggressive dog because its doing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I wouldn't worry about it. It's part of play. My dogs will hump each other occasionally but neither has ever humped, or even tried to hump, a person so I don't think it means he will transfer the behaviour onto you. If he tries to hump you then yes, discourage it but until then I'd leave him to it, A bit of aggression in play is normal, should have seen my two play fight when they were puppies :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megan_ Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 It is normal to kill toys. Many a toy has been disembowled at my house and neither of my dogs try to do this to humans or other dogs. The humping is another matter - nip that in the bud quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Never ever had any of our pups go hump toys & if we did we would remove it . Even with our litters we haven't had pups hump each other & our adults only do it when the girls are in heat otherwise no humping here & not something we would encourage or allow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann21 Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I would say if you don't want your puppy humping toys or other dogs as an adult, then nip it in the bud now. I am not ok with either so addressed both when my dog was younger. He has never tried to hump humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewang Posted March 13, 2013 Author Share Posted March 13, 2013 Having the toy destroyed is small matter. What I am afraid of is Caesar transferring the aggression towards other dogs or people. Really hope that doesn't happen. Anyway Caesars gonna start puppy school soon. Hopefully the trainer might be able to help me in some way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 It doesn't mean he will be aggressive at all but for me its not behaviour we would encourage & if he does it with this toy only then we would remove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 The destruction of the toys is not an issue, buy him toys that are more hardy. It's the humping that should be discouraged, as an adult if he humps the wrong dog, he could find himself the recipient of a flogging from the dog that ojbects to it. At a young age, it's not sexual behaviour and desexing is not going to cure it, any undesired behaviours should be addressed early and with training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvus Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 I don't know why people think that behaviour towards a non-social object is going to spread to behaviour towards social objects. Or even that behaviour towards one social object will necessarily spread to another social object. Behaviour is very flexible, people, for good reasons. A dog that doesn't know the difference between a toy and a dog has got some fairly big problems. What's more, if a dog is properly socialised they can generally figure out for themselves who the 'wrong dog' might be. My Erik humps Kivi on a daily basis, but does not generally hump other dogs. This is not to say he didn't try. He did when he still had a puppy licence, and was told to get lost a few times and decided it wasn't a good idea to hump strangers. Kivi humps strange dogs once in a blue moon, but doesn't hump Erik or people. He has one doggy friend he humps and no others so far. This should give you some idea how complex and flexible dog behaviour is, including humping. I would treat it on a case by case basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 I agree Corvus, my dogs will hump each other sometimes but have never tried it on another dog or person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julesluvscavs Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 (edited) Joey humps his Mother Renae when he's excited about going for a walk, or when they have just come home from one, and on occasions when i have been getting their meals ready.. Renae usually just tells him off if he goes on too long (which he usually doesn't) Hes never tried it on with a person, and I can't recall from memory he's done it any other dogs. He never did it to our foster dog (female, she initially wasn't desexed) and I have not seen him even attempt to do it to our new puppy. I have no idea what he was like as a puppy as we didn't him at that stage. Hes not aggressive in any way. When he does it, I have told him off as soon as I have noticed it. Its not all the time. Hes had a dog do it to him at a doggy meet and greet years ago and he hated it . The other dog was just being friendly (and excitable) not aggressive. Miah sometimes plays rough with her toys, I haven't seen her hump them at this stage, but she gets on top of them and drags them around and tries to kill them. I haven't felt the need to stop her doing that. I guess if it becomes an obsession, you would be wanting to nip it in the bud fairly quickly! Edited March 14, 2013 by Jules❤3Cavs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvus Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Joey humps his Mother Renae when he's excited about going for a walk, or when they have just come home from one, and on occasions when i have been getting their meals ready.. That's displacement or arousal reduction behaviour. Basically Joey has found an outlet for his excitement. This is the same sort of thing Erik does. He does it exclusively to Kivi because Kivi doesn't care. They are best pals and are very close. Usually when other dogs don't like to be humped it's because they are uncomfortable with how close the other dog is or because they feel they have lost control of the situation, or because it hurts. The humping itself is not necessarily the problem. It's the added baggage. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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