sheena Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) Clean Run have on free shipping the Freedom No Pull Dog Harness & the double lead that goes with it. I don't need it, but it looks a much more comfortable harness than the other front attached ones which I have used successfully with my dogs, & it clips on both front & back like a double rein. Looks interesting :) And it comes in some nice colours. Edited March 6, 2013 by sheena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusgem Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) Just curious about these harnesses, do they all work stopping the dog from pulling? How does it stop them? Do dogs just not like the pressure on their chest or something? ETA dont worry just got on my laptop to have a look properly Edited March 6, 2013 by gusgem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlesev Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Oh, I have one. I got it from Amazon and used a shipping forwarder but free worldwide shipping sounds awesome. Mine looks dapper in blue: I like the double loop feature. I can't say much about pulling because I have a persistent puller. Basically, it works like Gentle Leader and makes it harder for the dog to pull (it turns them to face you instead). Mine hops like a rabbit when frustrated :laugh: Unlike Gentle Leader, I don't have to worry about the fabric cutting his underarms because it's padded with velvet. It's sturdy stuff, almost clunky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tassie Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) I've heard good things about it on lists from the US. Like everything, it is used in conjunction with training, but appears to be a pretty effective aid, and unlikely to damage the dog (or the human) in the process. Free shipping is awesome. Hurries over to CR. :) Not enabling or anything - but just look at the awesome colours :laugh: . HERE Edited March 6, 2013 by Tassie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuddleDuck Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) Damn you enablers! Now I want one for bear!!!! :laugh: Edited March 6, 2013 by PuddleDuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffyluv Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Just curious about these harnesses, do they all work stopping the dog from pulling? How does it stop them? Do dogs just not like the pressure on their chest or something? ETA dont worry just got on my laptop to have a look properly I think they work for some dogs and not others. I have tried just about every harness on the market and NONE of them work with Ziggy. He might be a bit unsure the first day or so but after that he goes right back to pulling like a steam train (if I give him free walking) - there is simply no such thing as loose leash with him.. We have the Lupi harness, the sporn harness (halter), a head halti, a front clip harness and a couple of other standard type harnesses just for luck (one of these is used to clip him in a seat belt in the car). We spend most of our walks changing direction to get a loose leash or walking against a wall (he is between me and the wall/fence and I use my leg to block him so he can't walk past).. He isn't as bad as he was and with obedience training he is improving heaps but he will still pull if given even an inch of leash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheena Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 Just curious about these harnesses, do they all work stopping the dog from pulling? How does it stop them? Do dogs just not like the pressure on their chest or something? ETA dont worry just got on my laptop to have a look properly I think they work for some dogs and not others. I have tried just about every harness on the market and NONE of them work with Ziggy. He might be a bit unsure the first day or so but after that he goes right back to pulling like a steam train (if I give him free walking) - there is simply no such thing as loose leash with him.. We have the Lupi harness, the sporn harness (halter), a head halti, a front clip harness and a couple of other standard type harnesses just for luck (one of these is used to clip him in a seat belt in the car). We spend most of our walks changing direction to get a loose leash or walking against a wall (he is between me and the wall/fence and I use my leg to block him so he can't walk past).. He isn't as bad as he was and with obedience training he is improving heaps but he will still pull if given even an inch of leash. My young guy is a real Houdini when it comes to car seat harnesses. He has the really nice one that Clean Run have on FS, but he just slips out of it. I then resorted to an old one of Bindi's, like you get in the pet shops & I thought he was going great till last ride in the car, I turned around & he was laying quitely on the back seat with the seat belt next to him. No idea how he does it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fox Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 My young guy is a real Houdini when it comes to car seat harnesses. He has the really nice one that Clean Run have on FS, but he just slips out of it. I then resorted to an old one of Bindi's, like you get in the pet shops & I thought he was going great till last ride in the car, I turned around & he was laying quitely on the back seat with the seat belt next to him. No idea how he does it Get a webmaster. If it's fitted properly I can guarantee that he wont get out of it. http://www.caninespi...er_products/148 Cleanrun also have free shipping in all the Julius K9 harnesses and accessories. I got new patches (Fast n Furious), chest piece and saddle bags for my Malis IDC harness for $25! I you Cleanrun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel_ Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 I bought a SENSE-ible Harness from there recently which also had free shipping :) It has worked like a miracle so far in regards to pulling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheena Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) I bought a SENSE-ible Harness from there recently which also had free shipping :) It has worked like a miracle so far in regards to pulling! Yeah... I've got the sense-ible one & it has been great & I really only need it now in exciting situations, but I thought this one looked a little bit more comfortable. I walked my two along the road tonight with him just in a flat, limited slip collar & really decided that he should be walked in his harness as he can slip his collar really easily, even the limited slip. RidgieMal, that harness looks awesome :) Edited March 6, 2013 by sheena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bundyburger Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Sensible harnesses are my pick too. Worked wonders here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel_ Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 I actually have no idea how it works to stop the pulling.. but the fact that it does is enough for me haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusgem Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 I'll have to look at the sensible one tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheena Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 I'll have to look at the sensible one tomorrow It's also still on free shipping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 I've haven't had any success with front connecting harnesses on a variety of fosters and have made sure I am using them correctly with different professionals, I have only seen them work on sensative dogs. I find I have less control with them that I would a flat house collar. I prefer this side clipping one if a harness type product is going to be used, it's one of a kind: http://www.completepet.com.au/shop/product/83-happy-at-heel-harness-lead-set http://youtu.be/0lUM9tKRK4Q I don't think any 'tool' is a cure, it's about implementing a training program with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) I think they work for some dogs and not others. I have tried just about every harness on the market and NONE of them work with Ziggy. He might be a bit unsure the first day or so but after that he goes right back to pulling like a steam train (if I give him free walking) - there is simply no such thing as loose leash with him.. That's because these so called gentle harnesses rely on applying some discomfort to the dog to supposedly stop them pulling. Now the premise is that people don't want to use those horrible, nasty tools like correction chains and prong collars so these wonderful, magical 'gentle' aids do the trick! EEEEEEEEEEEEEP ... wrong. You (and most other people on the planet) have a breed with a reasonable to high pain threshold and hence the harness will do absolutely nothing except help him pull you about in no time, unless you intend on muscling your dog to get him in place like you do with the front attach harnesses. And unless you can hold the animals focus THE WHOLE WALK be prepared to be yanked and pulled because there is NO consequence to the action. It's why I see people constantly buying new harnesses and equipment, one fails apparently you go buy another sorry but they pretty much fall into same sh*t different smell category with me no matter the brand. Our problem is we see the leash as an attachment NOT a TOOL that it is hence why all this stuff is on the market. How you use the leash is just as important as the collar you use and both handler and dog need to learn that. It's why leashes now look like waterskiing equipment, we think of it as something to just hang on to and hope we don't get hurt. Teach your dog to respect the lead length and signals from it, owners learn how to use it properly to train your dog and you don't need a million dollars worth of equipment that stops working after a while. They're overpriced gimmicks, every one of them. Get a prong for your staffy, learn how to use it and train him not to pull. The money you've probably spent on harnesses could have bought you a corrective collar and a couple of lessons with a decent trainer and fixed the problem. Edited March 7, 2013 by Nekhbet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmolo Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Where can i get one of these 'front attack harnesses' Nek.. :laugh: :) I respectfully disagree with you regarding the way these sorts of harnesses work, their use and benefits. I have a number of clients who use them with great success and they DO have corrective function- it's just a different type of corrective function to that of a prong etc. Of course for some dogs they are not effective, same as other tools are not effective for every dog, owner and situation. Tools are just tools. They need to be used as an aid to assist in teaching loose lead walking in combination with the right techniques. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) Hey I'm sick I'm allowed to not make sense :laugh: I'll send you one, it has a Malinois poking out the front The 'corrective' function of the harness is that low, I see it as less or no more then using a flat or martingale collar. If the dog is that soft why should I send my clients out to buy something 3 times the price of what they have or can buy that will work. My clients throw the harnesses out of their own choice, I don't make anyone do anything they don't want to do. But personally, I think they are the long way round the short path and just a waste of money for most people. Edited March 7, 2013 by Nekhbet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan3 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 A lot of people cannot legally use or access a prong collar, but aside from that issue I think it's a very good idea to see a competent trainer and learn how to use any equipment you plan on using. The same goes for a front-attach harness, and I've not had any issues in teaching people to use them (or, for those who do not suffer some terrible back or shoulder injury, how to transition to a flat collar). They are pretty much "set and forget", but a strong dog can learn to pull sideways. It's a simple matter to stop that, and the tool gives you the leverage to do it if you've been shown how or can figure it out. Most of the time when I've seen a problem, the owner has been unconsciously allowing it to continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuffles Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I used a front attach harness with my girl which was very effective - it wasn't a correction to her, it physically stopped her from pulling as when she did, she went sideways instead of ahead. As Aidan says, she did learn to pull sideways, but it still allowed for much better control than a flat collar. Many people at my dog club have had lots of success with front attach harnesses (and even haltis, shock horror). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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