Steph M Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 She was just so rude, I couldn't believe it! Sure I'll get the rundown of his sins when I pick him up. Be interesting to hear really, I might have to coach her on her appalling phone manner and service skills. Haha. :D Your dogs are so fab. Brooke was pretty jealous yours were all clipped and clean and small enough to pop in the tub and ours are big mud monsters. He's been willing Gus to stop growing since about 10 weeks. Haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph M Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Poor Gus At least Rosie is enjoying himself. Ah yes, because we all know how desexing cures all bad behaviours *remembering when my desexed at 6month lab puppy started humping, leg cocking and generally going nuts 3 months after the op* I know right? It's the cure all for every behaviour, when it;s done they just stop being naughty. I even had a vet at the lort smith on Saturday tell us we were mad for not having it done at 6 months and that breeders all tell old wives tales about desexing at older ages to keep dogs entire and continue their breed and make their show dogs grow bigger. Yes. Makes perfect sense now just look at his red eye and be quiet. It's shaping up to be quite a battle keeping his nuts for a few more months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leah82 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Lol, but when they do get dirty, my god they get dirty. Somehow Collie's paws (all 4) got completely covered in mud yesterday. No idea how as it was all 4 paws and our backyard doesn't get muddy. I put a couple of inches of water in the bath thinking that would be enough to clean them...only for the water to turn completely opaque brown as soon as his paws hit the water :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaCC Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 (edited) Poor Gus At least Rosie is enjoying himself. Ah yes, because we all know how desexing cures all bad behaviours *remembering when my desexed at 6month lab puppy started humping, leg cocking and generally going nuts 3 months after the op* I know right? It's the cure all for every behaviour, when it;s done they just stop being naughty. I even had a vet at the lort smith on Saturday tell us we were mad for not having it done at 6 months and that breeders all tell old wives tales about desexing at older ages to keep dogs entire and continue their breed and make their show dogs grow bigger. Yes. Makes perfect sense now just look at his red eye and be quiet. It's shaping up to be quite a battle keeping his nuts for a few more months! Urgh, I'd get a new vet! I only like one vet here, and unless it's an emergency I make sure to always book in with him. It was the same back in Orange too. This one is great, asked me once what my plans were, I said agility so definitely not planing to desex until maturity and he just said good plan and left it at that . The one time I wasn't able to see him though I got lectured, "But it will prevent all the unwanted behaviours and make him so much calmer" She was trying to convince me 4 months was a good time!! Edited October 22, 2013 by LisaCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliwake Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I'm pretty sure Nixon had his first encounter with a young lady dog about to have a season at the dog park yesterday. He was certainly glued to her behind for a solid 15 mins (despite being repeatedly dragged away by me!) Having said that, he didn't try to hump her at all. Later that night he was showing some 'excited behaviour', but still didn't get to the point of actually humping anything, and now my husband thinks we should desex him soon... I don't think his behaviour is a problem at all! He settled down fine afterwards. There will be discussions... I'm trying to hold out for at least 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph M Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Yeah this was one of those aforementioned emergencies. Gus had a red mucky eye, and I don't mess about with eyes. He popped some dye in and said it was more than likely just from the beach water and hey presto it went as quick as it came, but better safe than sorry I guess! He was pretty rude, one of those winners that talks over you and doesn't listen terribly well. I can't say I blame the vets as much. Sure they see loads of bogans with entire dogs and just see disaster but see less people willing to put in the work and manage and discourage behaviors and actually contain the animals to prevent puppies and fights. It still does irk me when they just don't bother to hear you out and flat out tell you you're wrong. I think the daycare woman just had the shts that he was stressed and barking, which undoubtedly makes her day hard and wanted to get the jump on me and have something to complain about. Bottom line is though if he hadn't had fun I wouldn't take him again, all of our problems are solved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph M Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I'm pretty sure Nixon had his first encounter with a young lady dog about to have a season at the dog park yesterday. He was certainly glued to her behind for a solid 15 mins (despite being repeatedly dragged away by me!) Having said that, he didn't try to hump her at all. Later that night he was showing some 'excited behaviour', but still didn't get to the point of actually humping anything, and now my husband thinks we should desex him soon... I don't think his behaviour is a problem at all! He settled down fine afterwards. There will be discussions... I'm trying to hold out for at least 12 months. Well certainly would expect him to be 'excited' it's only human canine, but he didn't get carried away and it's all about how you manage it that counts more than what he has or doesn't have attached to his undercarriage. I've known desexed females who hump and entire males who couldn't care less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daisy.Tea Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 (edited) So I'm back from the vets with a very sleepy pup Edited May 17, 2014 by Daisy.Tea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph M Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Don't feel bad! If you can feel ribs and see a waist I would assume he was a good weight too! Perhaps he's just having a rough growth spurt that might be eased by a little less weight. Don't feel bad! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliwake Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I've been trying to find some fodder for my argument, and this journal article seems to support the cause, if it helps anyone else out: http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0055937 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daisy.Tea Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 That's sort of what she said about the weight that it'll help him now if he is a little lighter. I keep such a close eye on him that I didn't think he was fat. He is in a word growing phase right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaCC Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 (edited) Aliwake, desexed male dogs sometimes act the same way around bitches in heat. It doesn't reduce their sense of smell :) Daisy.Tea, I'm glad his hips are good :) Nova is quite a large boy, I weighed him today at 18.3kg, he's 5 1/2 months. But he is in the condition I want him to be, I can feel his ribs easily, he has a very defined waist and up tuck. Next time you bath Atticus, have another look and feel of him while he is wet. The thing with Aussies is they vary in size a lot, so you can't go off a specific weight recommendation! Nova is a lot bigger than his litter sister and as I said on the Aussie thread I expect him to be quite big! Speaking of the Aussie thread, just look at the differences between the adult males there. MDDs Koda is 30 odd kgs when Rusty is a little thing at 22? I think it was. Both healthy, fit looking dogs. If he is having problems, a lot of vets would prefer dogs to be on the leaner side, he may be in great condition but being that little bit leaner might help reduce any joint pain he has. Edited October 22, 2013 by LisaCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaCC Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Daisy.tea, These are the quotes I've just gathered from the Aussie thread about different weights. Maybe ask your breeder about your boys lines and size expectations I've only just realised what a light Aussie Rusty is. An American import came into work for a groom the other day, and doing the groom, it's the first time I've been really hands on (as in, spending just under an hour with this dog!) with another Aussie, and he was a big boy! Very solid and thick, however Rusty is a much lighter frame and weighs on 21kg. It surprises me to think that Rusty is only 21kg, Koda's 9kg more than that, and he's kept lean! Luka is definitely not what you would call a big adult male. :laugh: I've recently switched him to an all raw diet so i am weighing him once a month to see whether I need to adjust amounts. I am pleased to see he has gained a little bit of weight and is now 22.8 kgs, not big boy by any stretch :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daisy.Tea Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Thanks Lisa! That's so lovely that you compiled them. I am happy with his weight at the moment. But I think she was more trying to tell me that even leaner is better at the moment. He does have a waist and a nice tummy tuck and looks tiny when washed. Atti is already smaller than his brother. She said that we can play it by ear so there is no definite number to lose. And see how he is looking. If he was a pet pet then she would treat him differently and he would be considered normal but as (hopefully) a performance dog than we are being overly cautious. It's been a day and I'm a bit emotional. How silly!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaCC Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 No problem :) And you're not being silly! Your pup was being x-rayed, definitely an excuse to be emotional! I'm trying to keep Nova light too, hopefully performance in our future too! You're only in the ACT, perhaps we will cross paths one day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hankodie Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) Argh! I think Hank has a hotspot he is sleeping next to my desk and I noticed a sore under his armpit. It's about the size of a 10c coin and it's weeping. I've never had to deal with a hot spot before - after researching it says that I can use nappy rash powder on it to keep it from getting worse, does anyone know if this is OK to use? I think it was my fault - I wiped him down with a damp towel a couple of nights ago in his crate because it was really hot in our bedroom, I forgot to take the towel out and I think he slept on it It's like one thing after the next! Sorry everyone if I sound like the world's most neurotic puppy mum! Edited October 23, 2013 by hankodie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph M Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) Argh! I think Hank has a hotspot he is sleeping next to my desk and I noticed a sore under his armpit. It's about the size of a 10c coin and it's weeping. I've never had to deal with a hot spot before - after researching it says that I can use nappy rash powder on it to keep it from getting worse, does anyone know if this is OK to use? I think it was my fault - I wiped him down with a damp towel a couple of nights ago in his crate because it was really hot in our bedroom, I forgot to take the towel out and I think he slept on it It's like one thing after the next! Sorry everyone if I sound like the world's most neurotic puppy mum! Maybe pop a little betadine/paw paw ointment or something on it to knock off any infection that might be brewing? You're right though, nappy rash powder is a lifesaver. Edited October 23, 2013 by Steph M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hankodie Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) Maybe pop a little betadine/paw paw ointment or something on it to knock off any infection that might be brewing? You're right though, nappy rash powder is a lifesaver. Thanks Steph, it already looks sore, poor thing. I'll try the betadine before putting on the nappy rash powder, I read I'm supposed to keep it as clean and dry as possible. Edit: Just attached a photo - I'm pretty sure it's a hot spot, I could be wrong though? I've never seen one IRL but it was the first thing I thought of when I saw it Edited October 23, 2013 by hankodie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph M Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Looks sore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daisy.Tea Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Poor Hank! You were doing the right thing trying to keep him cool. It could be anything. Maybe he scraped himself a little? Don't worry too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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