Vurd2BB Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Hi all Just a quick one, a couple of weeks ago Sara started having diarrhea, i am assuming it was something she ate, so immediately starved her for 12 hours then started her on a pumpkin / turkey mince diet, feeding several small meals a day. After 3 - 4 days she was getting better again, then she was fed some kibble and went back to the runs. So repeated the process, skip ahead now she is getting better. Still on the same diet, but yesterday i re-introduced a raw chicken maryland to her diet, she seems ok, still feeding it ontop the the cooked mince / pumpkin. I had not seen her do her business, but today i took her to the park, had fun chasing the ball etc etc, on the way back home she did her business. It was solid, but the outside was shiny/ wouldn't say runny but moist, and orange because of the pumpkin. Is this normal after exercise, she was doing alot of running around. Is this normal? I am going to keep her on the cooked mince / pumpkin and keep slowly weening her onto her regular diet, really going to take my time this time around, up to 2 or more weeks. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vurd2BB Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 Just took a fecal sample in to the vet and going in this arvo. Vet also tried to advise me against feeding a raw diet saying it could contain bacteria etc etc and i should go on a prescription hypo allergenic diet of some sort. How right is he in saying that feeding raw, especially raw chicken toa dog is no good as it could contain salmonella which causes diarrhea and other problems ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheena Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 (edited) Just took a fecal sample in to the vet and going in this arvo. Vet also tried to advise me against feeding a raw diet saying it could contain bacteria etc etc and i should go on a prescription hypo allergenic diet of some sort. How right is he in saying that feeding raw, especially raw chicken toa dog is no good as it could contain salmonella which causes diarrhea and other problems ? 'Sounds like he is trying to sell you a very expensive food. Dogs' stomachs are designed to eat raw meat & they are a lot more tolerant of things like salmonella than we are. How often do you see a dog bury a bone then go back days or weeks later & dig it up & eat it. When a fox kills your chooks, more than he can eat in one go, he will take the rest away & bury them for later. But I am not a vet, so that's just my thoughts :) ETA some kibbles are very rich & need to be introduced slowly. It may be that your dog cannot handle a main ingredient in the kibble like lamb or salmon. Edited February 14, 2013 by sheena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vurd2BB Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 Also after yesterday poop, last night we fed the boiled mince and a raw maryland and this morning she had the runs again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumabaar Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Just took a fecal sample in to the vet and going in this arvo. Vet also tried to advise me against feeding a raw diet saying it could contain bacteria etc etc and i should go on a prescription hypo allergenic diet of some sort. How right is he in saying that feeding raw, especially raw chicken toa dog is no good as it could contain salmonella which causes diarrhea and other problems ? 'Sounds like he is trying to sell you a very expensive food. Dogs' stomachs are designed to eat raw meat & they are a lot more tolerant of things like salmonella than we are. How often do you see a dog bury a bone then go back days or weeks later & dig it up & eat it. When a fox kills your chooks, more than he can eat in one go, he will take the rest away & bury them for later. But I am not a vet, so that's just my thoughts :) ETA some kibbles are very rich & need to be introduced slowly. It may be that your dog cannot handle a main ingredient in the kibble like lamb or salmon. Generally dogs can tolerate salmonella etc, but with a dog that clearly has something more going on internally then I would be agreeing with cooking the food. Why put more stress on a compromised system? Also remember that it might not be the food causing the diarrhoea, she may have a bug of some description.Or it may be a type of protein that is disagreeing with her (one of my dogs doesn't tolerate chicken well) but I wouldn't be doing too much swapping and changing until you know what the current pattern is. Perhaps a blood test to see what is going on might be a way forward if you don't see resolution in the next couple of days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vurd2BB Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 The vet seemed hesitant to do the fecal test i said do it anyway. Also mentioned anti-biotics, was very adamant that it was diet related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vurd2BB Posted February 15, 2013 Author Share Posted February 15, 2013 Also just found 2 different spots of yellow foamy vomit in her run, which would have been in the last 1 or so. There was nothing in the vomit just foamy liquid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Back to the vet ..maybe a different one , I think. Today would be good . No more food for now ... and make sure the vet does faecal and blood tests this time to really get a picture of what's going on! best of luck with her... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vurd2BB Posted February 15, 2013 Author Share Posted February 15, 2013 Fecal float test came back negative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vurd2BB Posted February 15, 2013 Author Share Posted February 15, 2013 I am going to the vet this evening, i haven't actually taken her to the vet yet, just took the sample. The other one in my area was absolutely no good, should i go in anyway to see what this guy has to say ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I am going to the vet this evening, i haven't actually taken her to the vet yet, just took the sample. oh!! a faecal test won't really give much info if your dog has anything other than worms . She needs to be properly checked over. Poor thing ... an upset tummy for so long really does need checking.......and hopefully it is nothing contagious ..as she has been to the park whilst ill ..... I hope she gets some help soon ..it's always a worry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vurd2BB Posted February 15, 2013 Author Share Posted February 15, 2013 Ok just got back from the vet, he said she's not too bad, stomach is a bit sore, he gave her an injection of anti biotics plusa 5 day course of 2 different ones to bring back the balance of bacteria. Also said to keep her on the bland diet and slowly bring up the dosage of food and monitor her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Fingers crossed now that she'll be happy and not sore very soon ! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vurd2BB Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 She seems more energetic. Doesn't like downing all the pills haha. One is metronidazole and the other is Amoxicillin 5, it has a different name though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julesluvscavs Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 (edited) glad to hear shes's doing better. Im feeding a raw diet to my my new puppy as per her breeder's instructions. Hers are all on raw and natural, always have been. Im dreading taking her to vets for her second vaccination as they will probably lecture me against what im feeding her in lieu of their expensive dog food. Someone I know off took hers to the vet for its second vaccination and they were very anti raw too, and said she will have to give her dog calcium supplement tablets. I wouldn't think they would need supplements if they are healthy and getting it in their diet anyway.. Our older 2 cavs get expensive vet food and they still suffer with upset stomachs every so often.. Edited February 18, 2013 by Jules❤3Cavs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vurd2BB Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 They'd be getting calcium from the bones anyway. I will definitely be going back to raw, but i am wary about raw chicken now, or the extra skin on chicken may be upsetting Sara's stomach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimax Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 They'd be getting calcium from the bones anyway. I will definitely be going back to raw, but i am wary about raw chicken now, or the extra skin on chicken may be upsetting Sara's stomach. What sort of chicken do you feed that has the skin on? I don't feed wings often, due to the skin and fat as it gives my pugs really mucus'y poo, but frames don't normally have much skin on them. I wouldn't be feeding much chicken skin at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vurd2BB Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 Usually marylands but will stop that now or skin it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimax Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Usually marylands but will stop that now or skin it What's a maryland? (sorry, I'm vegetarian :laugh: ) Had that got bone, or is it just a fillet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vurd2BB Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 It's a leg + thigh attached, it does have bone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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