BJean Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 (edited) Why do most breed standards require dark brown eye colour? Is there any reason medium to dark brown eye colour is preferred over gold/amber? Edited January 28, 2013 by lilli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greytmate Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I don't know, but maybe light eye colour on an otherwise dark dog indicates that a dog might be carrying an undesirable recessive? I would assume most of the old-time advice that sounds superstitious either is just a superstition, or would be about trying to guess how prepotent a dog might turn out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I imagine it has to do with their job and well as where they're from. Darker eye colours would be better for dogs that go to ground like terriers. The less your prey sees you, the better. At least, that's what I've read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 What Sheridan said. Almost all standards "prefer dark eyes". Dark eyes have more pigment - and perhaps that makes for a sounder eye. I have never seen factual evidence of why dark eyes are preferred but dark eyes soften the expression, which is mostly called for in a lot of standards. With dark eyes it is more difficult to see the pupils, which would further soften the expression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I do recall something that said it was a deep seated primal instinct against yellow eyes because wolves have yellow eyes (do wolves have yellow eyes?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Interesting that in most sight hounds a lighter eye is permitted. I think it's probably because a darker eye means a softer expression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Interesting that in most sight hounds a lighter eye is permitted. I think it's probably because a darker eye means a softer expression. Some of it will be where they're from, though, like with blue in huskies. Or is that malamutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJean Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 I do recall something that said it was a deep seated primal instinct against yellow eyes because wolves have yellow eyes (do wolves have yellow eyes?). Yes, wolves have yellow / amber eyes, so do a lot of Anatolians. I actually like the look of the black mask with yellow eyes. So I'm biased. But I do know that most breeds prefer medium to dark brown eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greytmate Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I don't think you can separate eye colour from coat colour. If the breed standard allows dilute coats, they have to allow lighter eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJean Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) I don't think you can separate eye colour from coat colour. If the breed standard allows dilute coats, they have to allow lighter eyes. Yes and I think there is dilute in the light fawn and light agouti, black and silvers etc Edited January 29, 2013 by lilli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I do recall something that said it was a deep seated primal instinct against yellow eyes because wolves have yellow eyes (do wolves have yellow eyes?). Yes, wolves have yellow / amber eyes, so do a lot of Anatolians. I actually like the look of the black mask with yellow eyes. So I'm biased. But I do know that most breeds prefer medium to dark brown eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I don't think you can separate eye colour from coat colour. If the breed standard allows dilute coats, they have to allow lighter eyes. Yes and I think there is dilute in the light fawn and light agouti, black and silvers etc If there is dilute in there as well the guard hairs will be blue rather than black. Amber is black/sable but has the amber coloured eyes. A lot of the sable border collies seem to have this eye colour. I think it is pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoofnHoof Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Interesting that in most sight hounds a lighter eye is permitted. I think it's probably because a darker eye means a softer expression. Some of it will be where they're from, though, like with blue in huskies. Or is that malamutes? Yeah lots of huskies have blue eyes, it's a fault in Mals. I love my husky's amber eyes :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJean Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 I don't think you can separate eye colour from coat colour. If the breed standard allows dilute coats, they have to allow lighter eyes. Yes and I think there is dilute in the light fawn and light agouti, black and silvers etc If there is dilute in there as well the guard hairs will be blue rather than black. Amber is black/sable but has the amber coloured eyes. A lot of the sable border collies seem to have this eye colour. I think it is pretty. There is dilute in the sable. It has not been identified yet but it is there :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I don't think you can separate eye colour from coat colour. If the breed standard allows dilute coats, they have to allow lighter eyes. Yes and I think there is dilute in the light fawn and light agouti, black and silvers etc If there is dilute in there as well the guard hairs will be blue rather than black. Amber is black/sable but has the amber coloured eyes. A lot of the sable border collies seem to have this eye colour. I think it is pretty. There is dilute in the sable. It has not been identified yet but it is there :) Not really sure what you mean the dilution gene is on a different locus to the agouti gene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJean Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) If there is dilute in there as well the guard hairs will be blue rather than black. Amber is black/sable but has the amber coloured eyes. A lot of the sable border collies seem to have this eye colour. I think it is pretty. There is dilute in the sable. It has not been identified yet but it is there :) Not really sure what you mean the dilution gene is on a different locus to the agouti gene. I am not referring to the dilution of eumelanin, most commonly known as the 'dilution gene' . I am referring to the dilution of phaeomelanin. Edited January 29, 2013 by lilli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 If there is dilute in there as well the guard hairs will be blue rather than black. Amber is black/sable but has the amber coloured eyes. A lot of the sable border collies seem to have this eye colour. I think it is pretty. There is dilute in the sable. It has not been identified yet but it is there :) Not really sure what you mean the dilution gene is on a different locus to the agouti gene. I am not referring to the dilution of eumelanin, most commonly known as the 'dilution gene' . I am referring to the dilution of phaeomelanin. Ok with you now :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJean Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 What Sheridan said. Almost all standards "prefer dark eyes". Dark eyes have more pigment - and perhaps that makes for a sounder eye. I have never seen factual evidence of why dark eyes are preferred but dark eyes soften the expression, which is mostly called for in a lot of standards. With dark eyes it is more difficult to see the pupils, which would further soften the expression. okay ta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I do recall something that said it was a deep seated primal instinct against yellow eyes because wolves have yellow eyes (do wolves have yellow eyes?). Yes, wolves have yellow / amber eyes, so do a lot of Anatolians. I actually like the look of the black mask with yellow eyes. So I'm biased. But I do know that most breeds prefer medium to dark brown eyes. Lovely photo, lovely dog. Do most guardian breeds have lighter eyes? I'd think, again in terms of dog jobs, they'd want to be seen so lighter eyes would be an advantage, whereas in earth dogs, lighter eyes would be a disadvantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuffles Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 The Australian Shepherd standard allows any eye colour or combination including flecks and marbling. However, it also sets out the correct expression and as previous posters have said, eye colour can affect expression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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