Stewie_the_Frenchie Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Hi all, Omar is nearly 20 weeks old (5months), and in the last couple of days he has started piddling randomly on furniture and inside the house (he obviously isn't 100% house trained, but was pretty close). Also, he has started humping other people (not me). Could he e entering adolescence? He is getting the big chop in a month, so hopefully this will calm him down a little. He's quite well trained and absolutely knows that I am boss. Any thoughts would be great. I've read K9's development calendar, but couldn't see anything on marking territory - but yes, did see that the attempted dominance usually kicks in about now. Oh the joys! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretty Miss Emma Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I'm going to guess at yes! I currently have my first male dog, he's nearly 10 months and we've had some of the hunping going on. He knows very clearly that humping is not allowed, I now only need to say "don't" and he will stop and walk away. Get on to training him not to hump as it is just really bad manners. And if he's cocking his leg to wee on the furniture you definitely need to get on to that, I know many many desexed dogs that still do that and I think it is likely because they weren't trained appropriately to not do it initially. Hamish has not dared do anything like that in the house, but even outdoors when I'm walking him I only allow him to cock his leg in places I choose mostly. He does get some freedom, but the freedom only extends to trees no man-made structures at all. I'd even contemplate taking a step back in your toilet training and escorting him outside on regular occasions. Does he wee on command, I don't know if that's helped with Hamish but I suspect it has contributed to life being a bit easier in this respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvsdogs Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Check this out, there are links to other adolescent problems. http://www.dogstardaily.com/training/ch-4-adolescent-dog-training-18-weeks-2-years My JS started cocking his leg around 6-7 months. Didn't hump though. I caught him twice while in the bathroom & oh & son said he did it often while they were in the garage. I had him desexed at 8 mths & he never marked in the house from that day on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie_the_Frenchie Posted January 26, 2013 Author Share Posted January 26, 2013 Thanks so much for taking the time to reply - that's very useful information. For some reason I thought adolescence started a lot later, around 7/8 months. Omar does wee on command - an invaluable trick I used with my old Newfie! I'll definitely ramp up the house training again and by the looks of the Ian Dunbar article, he's going to need some more socialization. Thanks again! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie_the_Frenchie Posted February 1, 2013 Author Share Posted February 1, 2013 Also, is 6 months the earliest you can get them desexed? He is driving me nuts (pardon the pun) at the moment - so much energy, testosterone, trying to dominate, humping, etc. I'm training and walking and socializing, and it's all manageable, but was just wondering if I could speed this process up a bit. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonwoman Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Also, is 6 months the earliest you can get them desexed? He is driving me nuts (pardon the pun) at the moment - so much energy, testosterone, trying to dominate, humping, etc. I'm training and walking and socializing, and it's all manageable, but was just wondering if I could speed this process up a bit. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Desexing is not a miracle cure, much of the behaviour is in the brain, that is the bit you train!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimax Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Also, is 6 months the earliest you can get them desexed? He is driving me nuts (pardon the pun) at the moment - so much energy, testosterone, trying to dominate, humping, etc. I'm training and walking and socializing, and it's all manageable, but was just wondering if I could speed this process up a bit. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You can desex before 6 months, but it won't fix the problems. It's really 99% training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Agree with the fact that castration is not a 'cure-all'. training ,and more training .. also ....dogs are not programmed to dominate the world .......... he is just a PUPPY , doing what is absolutely normal , unless he has been taught otherwise . Yes, puppies practise humping , and may also pee ..but only because they are allowed to , unfortunately.... Perhaps find a local trainer/behaviourist who can help you with what you need to know ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie_the_Frenchie Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share Posted February 5, 2013 Fair call re the training, absolutely! Thanks guys, have taken it all on board - also have let him have full access to the back yard while I'm at work now (high fences and completely secure), he's happier, although a couple of the pot plants are not. A regular brisk walk around the block does wonders too! So another question, indulge me for a minute. My mate is moving in however she has a gorgeous little Maltese x jack Russell. We did a dry run last night (they've hung out at parks before), but the little white fluffy just growled at Omar the whole time and didn't engage in any play. Omar was relentless in wanting to play and was very annoying to Ernie I imagine. Do you think we should continue to meet at parks and hang out so they get used to each other, or is it a bit of a lost cause? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Your pup is a pup..he will want to play..play NOW ..I need to play .. the other little dog needs her space ..she needs to be able to spend time away from the pup ..and she may need to be slowly introduced if she has been an 'only' dog.It's not fair to expect her to love being used a squeaky toy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Yeah that's a hard one. I would maybe keep having them meet and see if it improves, but if he doesn't warm to him I wouldn't push it. How old is Ernie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretty Miss Emma Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Agree with the fact that castration is not a 'cure-all'. training ,and more training .. also ....dogs are not programmed to dominate the world .......... he is just a PUPPY , doing what is absolutely normal , unless he has been taught otherwise . Yes, puppies practise humping , and may also pee ..but only because they are allowed to , unfortunately.... Perhaps find a local trainer/behaviourist who can help you with what you need to know ? One of the most interesting things I found out about when I was at the Ian Dunbar seminar on Saturday was about this!! And yes the end answer was - training!! But it was interesting, he is a big believer in the placebo affect of desexing (as in because dog has been castrated owner has a renewed expectation of the dogs behaviour and often trains them more effectively because "desexed dogs are easier to manage") - it was really really interesting!!! How old is the Malt x JRT? Maybe it just doesn't want to deal with puppy crap!! I know Kenz (who is only 3) generally spends the first day growling and flattening puppies if they do things she doesn't like and then after that she will generally play with them like no tomorrow! Young dogs need to learn from old dogs that they don't always get what they want when they want and from the sounds of it that is what the Malt x was saying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie_the_Frenchie Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 Thanks again for your replies guys! Ernie is 6 and I can totally understand why he doesn't want to put up with puppy crap! Ernie is very well trained and socialized - that's very interesting what you've said about Kenz PME - and encouraging! Definitely don't want to push it Aussie. Persephone - yep, he is all pup and wants to play now, right now and not later. He absolutely needs to learn from an older dog. He has had a bit of contact with my brothers pug Giuseppe who is 6 also - but she engages in play for the first 5 minutes and then tells him to pee off. But come to think of it, I don't think she did play the first time they met. Maybe there is hope! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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