Jellyblush Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 (even tho I don't like the idea of dogs crated for so long) you both did well ...I wonder which of you felt worse? ;) Def. ditch the beanbag! My old Mitch ..he went into a boarding kennel with his nice new beanbag ..and the kennel owners were still finding beans for days :p :) I don't either, in fact, I hate it, which is why I had not tried crating before - I just never considered it a humane solution. But honestly, in the comparison between her in crate and her tearing herself to pieces in the backyard, there is no doubt as to which is more humane. My hope is that the crate is not a long term solution, just like the meds. Over time, I'd like to get to the point where she is 100% calm in the crate, then wean off meds while still in the crate, then transition the crate to the backyard, eventually crate with door open in backyard...just like another kennel. Of course I am making this all up and have run none of it past Nekh or anyone else at this point, it's just my dream for the future. I know it will be a long road to that point if at all. For now, I'm just thrilled that Roo isn't hurting herself, or at risk elsewhere. P.s. I am SO hearing you on the bl00dy beans! Also, after smugly saying in the other thread that my house doesn't smell of dog....crating Roo all day has put an end to that I think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pebbles Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 You worry that it might take a long time to get to your dream Roo but just think how much she has improved in this short time, won't take as long as you think and then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Does that mean Roo went well today in the crate, Jelly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellyblush Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 (edited) Hope so Pebbles and I think so Sheridan! What do you think? Bars of crate after crating for two hours Friday night: Bars of crate after crating for eight hours today: Better, right? Edited February 18, 2013 by Jellyblush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Much better :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I am happy that she did well, I knew she would! Don't think I too had the idea of the crate being long term, but if it means she's calm, quiet and safe, it's a huge leap in her wellbeing, and you have some freedom so you learn to relax. A step at a time, but it's a huge step that you can now leave the house for whatever reason and your dog is safe. Once again, that is not damage :laugh: remember that shepherd you met? Hes still in reo-bar :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 it's a huge step that you can now leave the house for whatever reason and your dog is safe. YES!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pebbles Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 One big difference Even the 2 hour one isn't too bad. I would have expected a dog as strong as Roo would/could have done a lot more - Ok there's me sticking my nose in too, take no notice :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 That's great, Jelly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellyblush Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 One big difference Even the 2 hour one isn't too bad. I would have expected a dog as strong as Roo would/could have done a lot more - Ok there's me sticking my nose in too, take no notice :laugh: Compared to her frenzy when out the back, it's not too bad at all. If I've understood Nekh correctly, this is an indication that her distress is part habit rather than full blown terror. Here's a couple of pics of her poor little teeth after just a few weeks of chewing on the back door. So, she was definitely getting more worked up into the frenzy out there. That's why I'm so happy she's safer now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellyblush Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 it's a huge leap in her wellbeing, and you have some freedom so you learn to relax. Can't wait! Just like her self-harming = my worrying = her anxiety = her self-harming and so on into a downward spiral, the opposite positive compounding effect should also hopefully be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 One big difference Even the 2 hour one isn't too bad. I would have expected a dog as strong as Roo would/could have done a lot more - Ok there's me sticking my nose in too, take no notice :laugh: Compared to her frenzy when out the back, it's not too bad at all. If I've understood Nekh correctly, this is an indication that her distress is part habit rather than full blown terror. Here's a couple of pics of her poor little teeth after just a few weeks of chewing on the back door. <pics snipped> So, she was definitely getting more worked up into the frenzy out there. That's why I'm so happy she's safer now. Silly girl, Roo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Way to go Roo and Jelly!!! She needs a gold star calendar so you can stick on a star for every day she's been good in her crate... it will also help you see her progression in a real kind of way. T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoofnHoof Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 It's awesome that she did so well in the crate while you were at work Jelly! I have to leave my SV in the crate when I'm at work she as she escapes from the yard and I haven't got anywhere else secure for her, she was fine once she got used to it and got into the routine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bianca.a Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Awesome to read this Jelly! Good girl Roo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simply Grand Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Mine aren't properly crate trained, although the younger two were crated at night as puppies, but due to my circumstances at the moment I'm often home and sleeping/snoozing in bed during the day and all three really spend hours on end just sleeping in the same spot. Saxon stays in my room with me and occasionally moves from bed to floor, the other two I hear lying in the hallway outside my door stretching and moving occasionally. They really may as well be in a crate for all they move, even though they have the option to move around in the house and go outside through the doggy door. So seriously, don't think it's mean to keep Roo in the crate, once she's a calm relaxed dog she probably won't be too interested in doing anything when you're not there and up and about anyway. Oh, and mine are 3 1/2, nearly 2 and 15 months so still young and active yet happy to laze around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellyblush Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 Thanks Simply Grand, that's encouraging :) The gold star chart made me laugh - remember teaching my little brother not to wet the bed using one of those! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Well you could get some doggy related stickers and use those for Roo's progress instead... *grin* T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellyblush Posted February 19, 2013 Author Share Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) Hi everyone, little update for you. I had a call from a lovely girl from Gumtree who wanted to mind Roo five days. But, I am just haunted by the experience of the Uni girls letting her out and can't bring myself to trust again no matter how nice they sound. Since Roo went okay in the crate, I have a new plan - 2 days crated, 2 days daycare and (fingers crossed) 1 day working at home. Just for the next few weeks then I'll look at another crate day. Hope my boss goes for it. I couldn't afford 5 days per week daycare but 2 is okay, and at least I will know she is safe and with professionals. She's booked into Ka-Pooch! tomorrow. Anyone heard of them? In Fairfield, Melbourne AND the best part of it is....after a full day of exercise and interaction at daycare, if I wanted to crate her for a couple of hours in the evening to ...oh, I don't know, go on a date for the first time in years.... I probably could! Edited February 19, 2013 by Jellyblush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbesotted Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 looking good h Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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