Alyosha Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Nic - thinking of you for tomorrow. Baby steps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic.B Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 Thank you, it will all be ok I have been very distracted. Annie my Dad'd heartdog is now fighting for her life. I can not stand ticks or this. I have spoken personally with the vet, she is doing everything in her power and Annie has the best care/treatment available. Annie is under 24 hour care. Mum has just lost my Dad, to loose Annie would be terribly cruel. Annie was meant to be there for Dad tomorrow, I just hope she gets through this as she is 13 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katdogs Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 So sorry about Annie, that's a terrible thing on top of so much other bad stuff. Hugs and strength to you Nic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Ohhh.. Your dad might be calling her .. it happens . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic.B Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 Ohhh.. Your dad might be calling her .. it happens . Ohhh, the thought has crossed my mind more than once Pers Annie and Dad have always been soul mates. It might be selfish though honestly I hope Annie fights and gets through this as she has such an enormous amount to give and Annie has the life of her dreams ahead of her with Mum. My Mum and Dad's entire life revolves around Annie, she is cherished beyond words. Dad and Annie have always had a very intimate bond, esspecially since Dad's illness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic.B Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 So sorry about Annie, that's a terrible thing on top of so much other bad stuff. Hugs and strength to you Nic. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHA Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I'm sorry that you're going through such an emotional time at the moment Nic.B. Life is such a roller-coaster. Look after yourself and try and see the light at the end of the tunnel. Keep strong and I'm sending best wishes for Annie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic.B Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everythings Shiny Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 *hugs* Nic, my thoughts and prayers are with you and your family, lots of healing energies directed Annie's way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic.B Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 Thank you I have been trying to avoid tomorrow and everything else. To be honest the snake has been a good distraction. Better face the music now. Thank you all so much xxxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJaq Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) crap! If you cant get a snake catcher you may have to kill it although Id probably be too scared to do that, Im terrified of snakes. Good luck getting a catcher Kill it???? Not only is this against the law, but puts the OP in a likely position of getting bitten. Most snake bites occur when inexperienced people try to catch or kill a snake. It is not illegal to kill a snake, if it is threatening you or your animals. I will dig up the legislation if necessary but this is a very common and very false piece of "common knowledge" ETA: Here you go, let that be the end of the ill informed "it is illegal to kill a snake" rubbish http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/npawa1974247/s112.html Edited January 13, 2013 by BlackJaq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake catcher Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) A person shall not be convicted of an offence against this Act in respect of the harming of a snake unless it is proved that there were no grounds on which the person could reasonably have believed at any relevant time that the snake was endangering, or was likely to endanger, any person or property. The huge and handy grey area..The definition of being endangered by the snake..A snake in your yard, and no child is present, is not an immediate danger therefore it is illegal to kill. All Australian wildlife is protected unless you have a licence to kill it. Kill a snake in your yard that is not between you and your child, you are breaking the law, simple. Edited January 13, 2013 by snake catcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJaq Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) Property would include dogs. You can not seriously be suggesting that you have to keep your dogs inside the house at all times let they go near the snake in the yard? Edited January 13, 2013 by BlackJaq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake catcher Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Hey, if you want to kill snakes on your property, go for it...You are breaking the law though. It is still illegal as you kindly posted the link that proves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJaq Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) The link seems to prove that you may kill it if it threatens you or your property... I also have never heard of anybody being convicted of "killing a snake" in their backyard... ETA: ... unless it is proved... How is anybody going to prove that "there were no grounds on which the person could reasonably have believed at any relevant time that the snake was endangering, or was likely to endanger, any person or property"? As soon as there is a snake near my dog pens, house or poultry yards I begin to believe that it may threaten/kill my animals (read: property) or me Edited January 13, 2013 by BlackJaq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coogie Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I hope Annie recovers Nic. B, we too will be thinking of you and your family tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic.B Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 I hope Annie recovers Nic. B, we too will be thinking of you and your family tomorrow. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic.B Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 crap! If you cant get a snake catcher you may have to kill it although Id probably be too scared to do that, Im terrified of snakes. Good luck getting a catcher Kill it???? Not only is this against the law, but puts the OP in a likely position of getting bitten. Most snake bites occur when inexperienced people try to catch or kill a snake. It is not illegal to kill a snake, if it is threatening you or your animals. I will dig up the legislation if necessary but this is a very common and very false piece of "common knowledge" ETA: Here you go, let that be the end of the ill informed "it is illegal to kill a snake" rubbish http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/npawa1974247/s112.html I am not sure where you are BJ though in NSW and in my local area it is illegal to kill a snake. Around here snakes are killed every single day during spring/summer, dogs are also shot if they roam. I HATE snakes though seriously I have to wonder, SC's advice is always great and killing snakes in the past has not stopped them coming here. In fact I think I have had far more and I have been here 14 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojath Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Property would include dogs. You can not seriously be suggesting that you have to keep your dogs inside the house at all times let they go near the snake in the yard? Yep! Absolutely! Just as you'd be expected to keep your dogs in to prevent IT interfering with ANY protected native animal. If a dog doesn't interfere with a snake, it is not going to be bitten. As stated already, it IS illegal to kill a snake unless it is posing an immediate danger to you. In the case in question, a beautiful Red-Bellied Black Snake was "hanging around" and had out-stayed it's welcome. Certainly no cause to kill it. I don't like being accused of being ill-informed, when snakes are my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasha Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I picked up a RBB once and relocated it to some local bushland..... Certainly not something I would like to do often. It was a bit over a metre long. They are actually quite amazing if you take the time to watch them. This one was trying to get in our shed so I had to block it. I tried to call our neighbour that does snake stuff but he was at work of course.... This snake was in the garden and even as you watched it, the bloody thing disappeared before your eyes. It was like it was shimmying itself to make the leave mulch come over it. So in effect it hadn't moved along, but one minute you are watching it, the next it had buried itself....... I couldn't kill it though...... Its only a living animal trying to survive and go about its snake business. I mean a snake has to eat too.... RBB I have been told are generally timid and if there is noise and activity, will hide. They are generally only aggressive if they are threatened or interfered with ie stepped on, cornered, dogs trying to catch them etc. The Browns are the worst... I think.... I wonder if there is a course or something people can do to be able to get experience handling them. It would be better than people trying to randomly pick one up.... Like me. But I got it in a feed bag and put it in the car and took it away....... It prob came back but I have't seen it so............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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