Pockets Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Hi everyone I recently read and article about a pig farmer who weans his piglets with red cordial. Apparently the preservative/benzoic (sp?) acid in cordials helps build the immune system and create an additional barrier for fighting off any nasty bacteria's. It was a very interesting article and the stats provided showed an almost 0% stock loss since the farmer started. Quite a few breeders now add cordial to newborn puppies water throughout their development up until 8 weeks when they leave and have had great success. Has anyone else tried this ? Apparently the dosage is the same as it would be for humans :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) There has been a lot of research done on this via charles sturt uni and the Australian sports teams and the australian armed forces take raspberry cordial away with them to prevent giardia - and its given to kids in childrens hospitals for tummy bugs but there are only a couple on the market which do the job unless you make it yourself. One is Cottees but there appears to be two cottess you need the one which has at least 35% raspberries the other is a juice not a cordial but whether you can buy the real McCoy off a supermarket shelf is a big ask. You need to look to be sure it actually has raspberries in it. Most just have raspberry colour and flavour. http://baliforfamilies.com/bali_belly_and_raspberry_cordial.htm Edited December 28, 2012 by Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diva Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) I know some pig breeders have been using the stuff since at least the eighties when I first heard about it. Oddly enough I knew someone who ran a cordial factory back then and he was well across it. But as Steve says, getting the 'real thing' these days is harder as they often just contain flavouring. I have been told of dog breeders using it but have no direct experience with it. Edited December 28, 2012 by Diva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I use it but Ive always got tons of frozen raspberries in the freezer . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisart Dobes Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 We use to recommend it for carsick dogs when I was working with ADT & NDTF - works a treat but never for this. Will try it with our next litter. Would a raspberry tea work ? Our healthfood shop has a lovely one - or is it something with the cordial that works better. No time to read the article now will come back to it tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) We use to recommend it for carsick dogs when I was working with ADT & NDTF - works a treat but never for this. Will try it with our next litter. Would a raspberry tea work ? Our healthfood shop has a lovely one - or is it something with the cordial that works better. No time to read the article now will come back to it tomorrow. Its not the leaves its the fruit .I had a great conversation with this professor about 5 years ago and apparently what ever it is it is still active in anything raspberry including jams etc .they tested massive amounts of raspberries from heaps of different farms and at that stage hadnt identified what the property was but it wasnt affected by climate or soils - growing conditions etc raspberries do heaps of other things too - heaps of work on them re cancer and immune system stuff if you get a chance to look it up but a lot of that work gives credit to the ellagic acid in them.- You can buy that in pill form but its not the same as what we are talking about here because ellagic acid is found in other fruits but they dont do what raspberries do for giardia - bali belly etc. Edited December 28, 2012 by Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Could you juice or blitz some raspberries and add the juice to the water? What is the rate please ie mms of cordial or juice to water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pockets Posted December 29, 2012 Author Share Posted December 29, 2012 Thanks for the info Steve :) I thought it was quite interesting, especially if it helps preventing digestive issues and upset tummies and bugs etc in very young puppies. Oso - The dosage is the same as how you would make it for yourself. I read it was something to do with the acid in rasberry cordial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pockets Posted December 29, 2012 Author Share Posted December 29, 2012 Red Cordial kills bacteria in contaminated water http://www.abc.net.au/health/talkinghealth/factbuster/stories/2010/01/21/2797762.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pockets Posted December 29, 2012 Author Share Posted December 29, 2012 Would this be an alternative to taking bottles and bottles Of water when you travel for shows, as water that dogs are not used can course upset stomachs? Perhaps taking bottles of raserry cordial to add to water when traveling to prevent dogs getting sick from other waters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkySoaringMagpie Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Cascade Raspberry has the right concentration - or did last time I purchased it. It's usually displayed with the "grown up" cordials not the Cottees stuff. I've kept a bottle of it on hand ever since reading about the Charles Sturt studies and break it out when we have iffy tummy issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Cascade Raspberry has the right concentration - or did last time I purchased it. It's usually displayed with the "grown up" cordials not the Cottees stuff. I've kept a bottle of it on hand ever since reading about the Charles Sturt studies and break it out when we have iffy tummy issues. cascade is close - 25%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 (edited) I use Cascade. It has worked for my dogs. I have syringed it neat down the throat of a dog with gastro issues and it seemed to do the trick. Tastes pretty good as a cordial too! :) Edited December 29, 2012 by Haredown Whippets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadbury Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Just reading this thread, it reminded me of giving a Horse medication BUTE for pain and putting it in Red Cordial I thought it was just to improve the taste BUT this old Horse man said it was for the horses stomach as well. Bute now comes in an apple flavoured paste but is more expensive......so I suppose the old remedies work well for all animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espinay2 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Just had a look at the Cottee's product list and can't find any with 35% or greater raspberry? They have an apple and raspberry with 2% and a raspberry 'flavour' one (no raspberry content) but I can't find any others. Wondering if they still make one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 http://danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_76286/schweppes-cordial-raspberry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puglodge Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Just had a look at the Cottee's product list and can't find any with 35% or greater raspberry? They have an apple and raspberry with 2% and a raspberry 'flavour' one (no raspberry content) but I can't find any others. Wondering if they still make one? Hi I just googled "cordial 35% raspberry" & found Golden Circle have this percentage in their cordials. http://www.goldencircle.com.au/Products/Drinks/Cordial Kerry :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Just had a look at the Cottee's product list and can't find any with 35% or greater raspberry? They have an apple and raspberry with 2% and a raspberry 'flavour' one (no raspberry content) but I can't find any others. Wondering if they still make one? Yes they still make it but it hasnt been on a supermarket shelf for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 You need to be careful that its 35% raspberry and not just 35% fruit juice as they put other juices in and combine to make up the difference in some of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pockets Posted December 29, 2012 Author Share Posted December 29, 2012 I don't think it's the raspberry, it's the Benzoic acid in the cordials that kills bacteria, it's a preservative that's used In cordials to make them obviously last longer. The research paper was about the acid not about the berry itself :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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