minimax Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 You want another dog while you wait the three months for your pup? Why don't you just focus on getting ready for your pup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Maybe the OP has had some people going on at her about getting that pup minimax... and is asking for some other opinions from people who are more informed is all... T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimax Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Maybe the OP has had some people going on at her about getting that pup minimax... and is asking for some other opinions from people who are more informed is all... T. Oh OK, just sounded odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I'd wait the three months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karly101 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 3 months isn't very long to settle a dog in and then add another into the mix (and one that requires tonnes of training initially!).... I'd prob consider going the other way round - get your pup and get your training in and then add another dog. But yes I think a smooth collie would suit your requirements. If I had kids I would either go breeder or a rescue that fosters dogs for some time before adoption. Shelter dogs its too hard to gauge how they are actually going to be in a home environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 personally i would not get a dog now ..then a puppy in a few months time - sounds like too much hard work! Three months isn't long , when you are puppy proofing a house/yard, educating the kids as to what will be expected of them, buying/building a dog run/kennel /dog door , or whatever :) also, if you have an adult dog now .. when you get your puppy , there will need to be a lot of care taken to avoid accidents between them due to size difference avoid jealousy provide attention to detail with puppy training -esp. housetraining! provide separate housing /run areas for both when you are not home ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I have a byb dog, a poundie and a breeders ex breeding bitch. I don't agree that most poundies have problems, many are untrained and goofy, but thats fixable. Don't let people guilt you. After i lost my last rescue BT i wanted another one, so i went the breeder route. I didn't want a pup, so looked for an older dog to fit. There are alot of dogs out there needing a home with breeders, and you know roughly what you are getting. 3 months is not long to settle a new dog in, they often take that long to show their real colours ,and then you will bring another into the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Wait and get a pure bred from a reputable registered breeder that is registered with your states controlling body. This way you will have full back up from the breeder and be able to get a history, something from a pound could be a problem with not knowing any history and lets be honest, why take on someone else's problem from a pound. Many of the dogs are in there because they were failures, it's only a few dogs that get there through no fault of their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixeduppup Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I got an older poundy and then got a pup 2 months later, it was heaps of fun! :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisovar Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I do not agree that dogs in the pound are there because THEY failed. The majority are there because of poor choice of animal for purpose. A live wire pup in a home that expects to have a calm companionable animal from day one with little or no effort put in to raising it is a recipe for failure, but it is not the dogs that fail. Some homes are simply not suitable for a dog at all, and that is not the fault of the dog. Inexperienced homes, pups bought on impulse, no understanding of how to raise and train and unreasonable expectations are rife in the stories of pound dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsegal98 Posted December 25, 2012 Author Share Posted December 25, 2012 We've always owned dogs in pairs, we had been thinking about getting two pups from the same litter but the breeder didn't recommend it- she said it was twice as difficult and we would be better off starting off with another slightly more mature dog that already had the ground work put in (ex show dog). Do others think it is better to start with the pup, and then add the adult dog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 We've always owned dogs in pairs, we had been thinking about getting two pups from the same litter but the breeder didn't recommend it- she said it was twice as difficult and we would be better off starting off with another slightly more mature dog that already had the ground work put in (ex show dog). Do others think it is better to start with the pup, and then add the adult dog? Well, we breeders run several pups on from a litter with no problems what so ever. It just depends on how you feel about it. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her Majesty Dogmad Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 (edited) Two pups are double trouble and I know that many breeders won't sell two litter mates, perhaps in many cases it depends on the breed as well. I'd start with the puppy first, they need training spanning over a few months generally. Then I'd get the mature dog - who will be much easier to train if needed but if it has been in a foster home, then the work should have been done for you and it will simply be a case of making sure the two dogs are compatible. Alternatively, if you get the mature dog first and settle in, then perhaps when you get a puppy having a trained older dog will help by providing guidance to the puppy. Obviously any dog you get will need to be tolerant of having a puppy around, you don't want them to be too rough .. Edited December 25, 2012 by dogmad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 What Dogmad said, either way round is fine providing by the time the second one arrive's the first one is settled. With all due respect Oakway, your view on pound dogs is crap, and ill informed. Most poundies are dumped as their owner bought the wrong breed for their lifestyle, and then expected it to train itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 If you like the Collie Rough or the Smooth, then purchase a pup from a registered breeder who knows their lines, knows their dogs and can match a pup to your family. If you want to roll the dice, then get a rescue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christina Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Not all dogs that are submitted or re homed by other means have problems. There can be other reasons for them being in that situation. The best dog I have ever had was a 5 year old Great Dane. The man came home to find the dog & his 3 children in an empty house. His wife had cleaned him out & gone Moved in with his mother. He said the dog had been his wife's dog really & he couldn't keep it there anyway & if no one took it the pound was the last resort. The dog was amazing Often it is the luck of the draw. Rescue is fine but best if you can get some sort of history on the dog at least to know if it has met or is used to children. Your choice really. You do have to be more careful with children than if its a home of adults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 What Dogmad said, either way round is fine providing by the time the second one arrive's the first one is settled. With all due respect Oakway, your view on pound dogs is crap, and ill informed. Most poundies are dumped as their owner bought the wrong breed for their lifestyle, and then expected it to train itself. What would you know about my views on pounds......seeing I have run one. I have first hand experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsegal98 Posted December 25, 2012 Author Share Posted December 25, 2012 If you like the Collie Rough or the Smooth, then purchase a pup from a registered breeder who knows their lines, knows their dogs and can match a pup to your family. If you want to roll the dice, then get a rescue I think this is just it-- I don't want to roll the dice and take a chance when there are children and potentially, another dog, involved as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melzawelza Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Wait and get a pure bred from a reputable registered breeder that is registered with your states controlling body. This way you will have full back up from the breeder and be able to get a history, something from a pound could be a problem with not knowing any history and lets be honest, why take on someone else's problem from a pound. Many of the dogs are in there because they were failures, it's only a few dogs that get there through no fault of their own. That is such crap. I work very closely with a few rescues, foster dogs and provide training assistance to foster homes as the absolute vast majority of dogs have no *behavioiral* issues at all - they simply require obedience training so they can walk well on a lead and obey commands and they're brilliant dogs. Most dogs are in pounds because the owner got the wrong type of dog for their lifestyle and/or didn't bother putting the work in. A total couch potato household with a border collie is my likely to end well if the family don't change their lifestyle. And then the dog ends up in the pound. Same dog in an active household - no problems. I'm not saying this to guilt trip the OP. the breeder she is talking to sounds great and I fully support people purchasing from registered breeders. But your comments are so ridiculous and damaging, they have to be addressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 If you like the Collie Rough or the Smooth, then purchase a pup from a registered breeder who knows their lines, knows their dogs and can match a pup to your family. If you want to roll the dice, then get a rescue I think this is just it-- I don't want to roll the dice and take a chance when there are children and potentially, another dog, involved as well. Wait for your pup, give that one 12 or so months to grow and mature and see how you go. You might decide one is enough or you might want to add a second to the family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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