Zug Zug Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 not every burglar is afraid of dogs, a lot of crims do know what they're doing. Also that man didn't do what a lot of people could have done which is whack them with a stick or weapon Sad but true. Some friends of mine came home one day to their house burgled and their kelpie cowering under the house having been badly beaten by the intruders. She was a friendly dog - she would not have tried to hurt them but could well have barked. Disgusting excuses for human beings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melzawelza Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 LOL at the Staffy! Typical bull breed. I am not deluded at all about my pit bull type dog. There is absolutely no way she'd defend the house or me and would behave just as this Staffy did. When people knock on the door she just goes up to it and wags her tail, no bark at all. Yesterday morning I could hear someone outside fiddling and banging around with the house and she just ran around looking scared - not even a bark!!! (it ended up being the meter reader). Useless guard dog she is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdogs Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 I agree with most of these comments regarding the intruder in this scenario. His behaviour was not typical of an intruder's. Not only that, but the GSD that nipped his ankles and got zero response must have been thinking, "Ok, I give up, the dude has no nerve endings/is made of steel/etc". Any normal person would have responded in pain and fright to being bitten on the ankle. There's also a difference between protecting the pack and protecting the property. We've seen time and time again that untrained dogs can and will attack intruders and those threatening their family, so the illustration doesn't prove it won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-j Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 (edited) My friend owns a Hotel and her dog during trading hours is everybodies friend, even strangers, outside trading hours he has a completely different attitude and has proven this on several occasions. We have had customers who know the dog well come outside trading hours and are very surprised to find Diesel will not let them in, despite them saying his name etc. The only exceptions to that are the chef and myself, we still get barked at but it is more an excited they are here mum than a stay away bark. Edited December 1, 2012 by m-j Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyValley Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Well I have to say although Calico the Brittany may not have been up to the job Zora woke me up by going absolutely nuts at 2am Friday when our house was being broken into. But she was locked in my room and her bark is a bit pathetic, so they still managed to get away with some of our stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Living with an LGD you live with the risk that if not properly restrained someone could be bitten if he saw fit (touch wood he never has). I don't take his breeding for granted, nor his extensive socialisation, as his guarding and protective instincts are inherent and inbuilt. Everyone that visits are aware of his presence and the sign on the gate, simply stating not to come into the backyard but beep. Plus locks when we're not home. If people are dumb enough to climb the gate or ignore the sign or dog standing there barking at them then they're stupid enough to bet bitten. We have a right to have our houses guarded, we have a right to feel that our home and our belongings are protected and if our dogs can do that for us then they should be able to. Anyone that comes in the backyard ( apart from people he knows and likes) without us being there is most likely up to no good and he'll get his LGD on and protect the joint with a bite if needs be and that makes me happy to know my house and belongings are safe whilst I'm not there. I can't keep up with how many personalities your dog has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixeduppup Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 (edited) Living with an LGD you live with the risk that if not properly restrained someone could be bitten if he saw fit (touch wood he never has). I don't take his breeding for granted, nor his extensive socialisation, as his guarding and protective instincts are inherent and inbuilt. Everyone that visits are aware of his presence and the sign on the gate, simply stating not to come into the backyard but beep. Plus locks when we're not home. If people are dumb enough to climb the gate or ignore the sign or dog standing there barking at them then they're stupid enough to bet bitten. We have a right to have our houses guarded, we have a right to feel that our home and our belongings are protected and if our dogs can do that for us then they should be able to. Anyone that comes in the backyard ( apart from people he knows and likes) without us being there is most likely up to no good and he'll get his LGD on and protect the joint with a bite if needs be and that makes me happy to know my house and belongings are safe whilst I'm not there. I can't keep up with how many personalities your dog has. What's your issue? He's well socialised but protective of the house and property. He lets certain people in and the rest he won't let in unless we say it's ok. Hope that clears things up. Edited December 2, 2012 by mixeduppup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 It's just a far cry from the descriptions/stories you boasted in all the posts you had removed. Your stories are always changing. I have a good memory and call bull sh!t when I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixeduppup Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 It's just a far cry from the descriptions/stories you boasted in all the posts you had removed. Your stories are always changing. I have a good memory and call bull sh!t when I see it. So do I. I said that he has been obedience trained and is well socialised which he has been. He is a very lovely dog with every as long as we are home, otherwise he barks, he's never bitten but he may if some crazy person tried to attack his home. He loves chasing birds and isn't a big barker for an LGD. In the last 4-5 months he's become a bit more serious but he's still a clown, he used to love going for walks through town and meeting everyone and loved the vet, but with all the stray dogs I've put a hold on walks. At the end of the day he's an LGD and will bark and guard as it's in his nature to do so and I won't take his breeding for granted. Tell me if I've missed anything out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantis Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 It's just a far cry from the descriptions/stories you boasted in all the posts you had removed. Your stories are always changing. I have a good memory and call bull sh!t when I see it. So do I. I said that he has been obedience trained and is well socialised which he has been. He is a very lovely dog with every as long as we are home, otherwise he barks, he's never bitten but he may if some crazy person tried to attack his home. He loves chasing birds and isn't a big barker for an LGD. In the last 4-5 months he's become a bit more serious but he's still a clown, he used to love going for walks through town and meeting everyone and loved the vet, but with all the stray dogs I've put a hold on walks. At the end of the day he's an LGD and will bark and guard as it's in his nature to do so and I won't take his breeding for granted. Tell me if I've missed anything out. Poor MUP, did you reject Clyde at some stage? Is acting a bit like a lover scorned. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixeduppup Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 It's just a far cry from the descriptions/stories you boasted in all the posts you had removed. Your stories are always changing. I have a good memory and call bull sh!t when I see it. So do I. I said that he has been obedience trained and is well socialised which he has been. He is a very lovely dog with every as long as we are home, otherwise he barks, he's never bitten but he may if some crazy person tried to attack his home. He loves chasing birds and isn't a big barker for an LGD. In the last 4-5 months he's become a bit more serious but he's still a clown, he used to love going for walks through town and meeting everyone and loved the vet, but with all the stray dogs I've put a hold on walks. At the end of the day he's an LGD and will bark and guard as it's in his nature to do so and I won't take his breeding for granted. Tell me if I've missed anything out. Poor MUP, did you reject Clyde at some stage? Is acting a bit like a lover scorned. :laugh: I guess you can't get along with everyone. I'm not taking this thread OT though, it's all good. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TraceyB Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 I really have no idea what Raspa would do, she goes berserk when anyone comes to the door (known or not) or anyone walks near the side or back fence but as soon as we let someone in she is their best buddy pal what do you have for me friend. When I am trying to get her to stop barking at someone I don't like to say her name just in case someone overhears and calls her if they are trying to break in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casowner Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 It's just a far cry from the descriptions/stories you boasted in all the posts you had removed. Your stories are always changing. I have a good memory and call bull sh!t when I see it. So do I. I said that he has been obedience trained and is well socialised which he has been. He is a very lovely dog with every as long as we are home, otherwise he barks, he's never bitten but he may if some crazy person tried to attack his home. He loves chasing birds and isn't a big barker for an LGD. In the last 4-5 months he's become a bit more serious but he's still a clown, he used to love going for walks through town and meeting everyone and loved the vet, but with all the stray dogs I've put a hold on walks. At the end of the day he's an LGD and will bark and guard as it's in his nature to do so and I won't take his breeding for granted. Tell me if I've missed anything out. Poor MUP, did you reject Clyde at some stage? Is acting a bit like a lover scorned. :laugh: Clyde is a she and an experienced consistent Maremma owner :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Clyde is a she and an experienced consistent Maremma owner :) agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staffydave Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 this forum is like days of our lives sometimes dont know why all the drama is needed. its why i read and seldom post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdogs Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 this forum is like days of our lives sometimes dont know why all the drama is needed. its why i read and seldom post. Agreed. Way too catty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparassidae Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I actually think the dog trainer did a great job, and did simulate some fear in his actions. My previous working dog was intentionally trained NOT to protect property (though unfortunately, he probably would). I don't want my dogs biting someone because they tried to steal my lawn mower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoofnHoof Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I actually think the dog trainer did a great job, and did simulate some fear in his actions. My previous working dog was intentionally trained NOT to protect property (though unfortunately, he probably would). I don't want my dogs biting someone because they tried to steal my lawn mower. I would, my lawnmower cost me two and a half grand! :laugh: All kidding aside I doubt either of my dogs would do much about a burglar, they are a good visual deterrant though :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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