MelodysMum Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I can't believe it was ever legal! Germany to ban sex with animals: report THE German government is about to reintroduce a ban on bestiality, after pressure from animal welfare groups. Newspaper die Tageszeitung reports that the governing coalition are soon to amend the country's Animal Welfare Act to make sex with animals punishable with a fine of up to 25,000 euros ($31,000). Bestiality was legalised in Germany in 1969, the same year that gay sex was also removed from the criminal code. After that, sex with animals was only punishable if the animal was severely injured. However animal welfare groups have pushed for the ban to be reinstated, in an advertising campaign that used dramatic examples of "animal rape". Agriculture minister Ilse Aigner has agreed to change the law to make it illegal for people to "use (animals) for their own sexual activities or sexual acts of third parties" - which also bans the 'pimping' of animals to others. However the move has aroused the ire of zoophile group ZETA. Lobbyist Michael Kiok, who lives with his dog Cassie, told the newspaper there were more than 100,000 zoophiles in Germany. "Mere morals have no place in law," he said. Mr Kiok said he was worried that if the law took effect the authorities would try to take away his dog. The amendment to the law will be debated in the German parliament in mid-December. _________ These zoophiles are disgusting! I feel sorry for poor Cassie the dog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Omg, I feel sick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkySoaringMagpie Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Far out, like the OP I had no idea it was even legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJaq Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Oh how embarrassing! I never realized it was not illegal and people are openly doing that.. And living with their doggie life partners.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Labradork Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 (edited) I don't mean to sound like a party pooper, but shouldn't this thread be in the animal cruelty section? Edited December 1, 2012 by Labradork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Wow. Just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdie Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 So many sick sick sick ;should i call them people;in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJaq Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I went to the original German article and the majority of people in the comments are actually arguing against this! Unbelievable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tralee Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I went to the original German article and the majority of people in the comments are actually arguing against this! Unbelievable! That's OK! I banned sex with Germans decades ago> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixeduppup Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 *vomit* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Labradork Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 (edited) Never mind Edited December 1, 2012 by Labradork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simply Grand Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 How could this possibly have been legalized?? I thought it was pretty widely accepted in the western world in recent times that sex without consent is not ok, animals can't possibly give consent!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkySoaringMagpie Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 How could this possibly have been legalized?? I thought it was pretty widely accepted in the western world in recent times that sex without consent is not ok, animals can't possibly give consent!! This is one way to frame it, but we should bear in mind that animals don't consent to most things we do with them - they don't consent to obedience school, eating Royal Canin instead of Eaglepack, sleeping in the lounge instead of the bedroom etc etc. The reason it is wrong is because it's wrong to take advantage of a situation where you have power over a less powerful sentient being who could be damaged by predatory behaviour - be it an animal, a child, a mentally disabled adult, etc. Plus it's just disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 (edited) Another reason why Australia should not export live sheep! And in that article, it suggested the PETA was zoophilia. At least I think that is what it said. My eyeballs had fallen out by then, and I had to feel around on the floor for them. The wickedness and peculiarity of people never ceases to surprise me!! From the article Agriculture minister Ilse Aigner has agreed to change the law to make it illegal for people to "use (animals) for their own sexual activities or sexual acts of third parties" - which also bans the 'pimping' of animals to others.However the move has aroused the ire of zoophile group ZETA. Edited November 29, 2012 by Jed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJaq Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 (edited) How could this possibly have been legalized?? I thought it was pretty widely accepted in the western world in recent times that sex without consent is not ok, animals can't possibly give consent!! This is one way to frame it, but we should bear in mind that animals don't consent to most things we do with them - they don't consent to obedience school, eating Royal Canin instead of Eaglepack, sleeping in the lounge instead of the bedroom etc etc. The reason it is wrong is because it's wrong to take advantage of a situation where you have power over a less powerful sentient being who could be damaged by predatory behaviour - be it an animal, a child, a mentally disabled adult, etc. Plus it's just disgusting. Yes, that is the angle most of them were arguing. They don't consent to factory farming etc and worse things are done to them there (cattle and sheep are not generally kept in pastures in Germany, there is not enough room. Instead they are housed in enclosed, shed-type feed lots like pigs and chickens.) @Tralee, that's ok, I was not attracted to you in that way anyways ;) @Jed, no the article spoke about a zoophile group called ZETA, which is a real thing. Nothing at all to do with PETA, except making fun of their name maybe ETA: This seems to come in the wake of a proposal to ban castration of piglets and hot branding of horses... Also it is supposedly going to be made illegal to circumsize young boys.... Seems they are attempting to change a bunch of things and can't get enough support for any of them except this..... Edited November 29, 2012 by BlackJaq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Wow. Just wow. Agreed. I'm pretty much gobsmacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chezy Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indigirl Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Ugh sick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry lee Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Another reason why Australia should not export live sheep! Please explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Another reason why Australia should not export live sheep! Please explain? Are there words of 1/2 a syllable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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