The Spotted Devil Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Thanks, I'll go through that when I take a yea break, am PhDing right now :laugh: You and me both baby May the writing Dogs be with you :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Are You Serious Jo Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 In between I'm teaching Millbrookspring's puppy to stack so there's Dog/dog :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Wildthing, if you are a genuine poster, would you mind answering my question please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 At no stage have I said the foxes should not be killed. Reverend Jo,you state that information can not necessarily be believed because it is on the internet. That means that no one can believe the original post in this thread. I am not spreading false information as you imply. I am posting what I believe and what I have read. It was not me who posted that carbon monoxide causes immense pain (to the foxes), so direct your statements to that poster. My suggestion would be for people who read these threads to think about what they have read carefully before they have a knee jerk reaction and post. My first post has challenged a lot of people over their long held beliefs which may or may not be scientifically based. I'll just point out as gently as possible that DOL has a fair number of people working in science. Reverend Jo is one of them. You tread on shaky ground when you challenge a scientist without evidence and only on emotion and sources found on Wikipedia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casowner Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I thought it was the 21st? Dammit that throws my schedule out completely!!!! Either way, Xmas Day is cancelled this year, PD. Back to the OP, what breed of dogs are used for the vermin control? Which is why I didn't do the DOL SS this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casowner Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 In between I'm teaching Millbrookspring's puppy to stack so there's Dog/dog :laugh: Oh yes my very own little fox eradicator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Are You Serious Jo Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 and bears, don't forget the bears :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Action: carbon monoxide cartridges have been relatively recently registered for den fumigation inAustralia. The use of chloropicrin or phosphine should be replaced by carbon monoxide due to its humaneness and human health and safety advantages, although the relatively high cost of using these cartridges is a significant drawback. RSPCA Australia/AWC/VPC joint workshop Development of a national strategy towards humane vertebrate pest control Canberra 2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 1352784281[/url]' post='6019758']Action: carbon monoxide cartridges have been relatively recently registered for den fumigation inAustralia. The use of chloropicrin or phosphine should be replaced by carbon monoxide due to its humaneness and human health and safety advantages, although the relatively high cost of using these cartridges is a significant drawback. RSPCA Australia/AWC/VPC joint workshop Development of a national strategy towards humane vertebrate pest control Canberra 2003 Jed, did you just cite the RSPCA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Absolutely, Sheridan, my new besties!! After they went on TV to say what an ethical and wonderful breeder I am, (and for free too) what else could I do?? I think I have read everything on the web and in every vet book on CO poisoning!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantis Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Absolutely, Sheridan, my new besties!! After they went on TV to say what an ethical and wonderful breeder I am, (and for free too) what else could I do?? I think I have read everything on the web and in every vet book on CO poisoning!! That's great Jed. But I still hate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Absolutely, Sheridan, my new besties!! After they went on TV to say what an ethical and wonderful breeder I am, (and for free too) what else could I do?? I think I have read everything on the web and in every vet book on CO poisoning!! That's great Jed. But I still hate them. I knew you would. My opinion of NSW Vic, SA, WA hasn't changed much. But now I have been outed, I have to watch my mouf!! ( have to write anonomyous letters now) And I'm easily bought, a free ad will do it every time!! :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Absolutely, Sheridan, my new besties!! After they went on TV to say what an ethical and wonderful breeder I am, (and for free too) what else could I do?? I think I have read everything on the web and in every vet book on CO poisoning!! That's great Jed. But I still hate them. I knew you would. My opinion of NSW Vic, SA, WA hasn't changed much. But now I have been outed, I have to watch my mouf!! ( have to write anonomyous letters now) And I'm easily bought, a free ad will do it every time!! :laugh: MAntis I have to say I agree with you, Jed I am very glad they gave you some very positive advertising :) and you both gave me a giggle :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 (edited) OhSoswift, Mantis and I used to do a bit of cudgelling in harmony! But a free ad? I don't know anyone else who got a (free) TV endorsement from the RSPCA I wonder if he checked in his files and saw the mountain of anti BSL letters I had written him. He had forgotten my phone calls. But - he did change his stance on BSL after a while. Edited November 15, 2012 by Jed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I thought it was the 21st? Dammit that throws my schedule out completely!!!! Either way, Xmas Day is cancelled this year, PD. Back to the OP, what breed of dogs are used for the vermin control? Which is why I didn't do the DOL SS this year Geez, you would have had your present by the 21st, or even the 22nd, so you would still have been able to enjoy it :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souff Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Foxes are a living being just like domestic dogs. They are in this country because humans did not have the knowledge to leave them in the old country. To kill them because they are viewed as vermin by whatever means disgusts me. Carbon monoxide poisoning is cruel. Description of a weed: a plant in the wrong place. Description of a fox: an animal in the wrong place. The damage of both to the environment they move into is catastrophic. Foxes are sneaky vile little critters who get into places where a bullet cannot go, but the carbon monoxide finds them and off to sleep they go. The natural environment needs this to happen. Souff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katdogs Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Foxes are a living being just like domestic dogs. They are in this country because humans did not have the knowledge to leave them in the old country. To kill them because they are viewed as vermin by whatever means disgusts me. Carbon monoxide poisoning is cruel. Description of a weed: a plant in the wrong place. Description of a fox: an animal in the wrong place. The damage of both to the environment they move into is catastrophic. Foxes are sneaky vile little critters who get into places where a bullet cannot go, but the carbon monoxide finds them and off to sleep they go. The natural environment needs this to happen. Souff Yay, Souff's back Welcome, I've missed you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souff Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Foxes are a living being just like domestic dogs. They are in this country because humans did not have the knowledge to leave them in the old country. To kill them because they are viewed as vermin by whatever means disgusts me. Carbon monoxide poisoning is cruel. Description of a weed: a plant in the wrong place. Description of a fox: an animal in the wrong place. The damage of both to the environment they move into is catastrophic. Foxes are sneaky vile little critters who get into places where a bullet cannot go, but the carbon monoxide finds them and off to sleep they go. The natural environment needs this to happen. Souff Yay, Souff's back Welcome, I've missed you awww, thanks! Am really supposed to be doing something else of course, but was talking to a DOLer the other day ..... :D Souff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asal Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Foxes are a living being just like domestic dogs. They are in this country because humans did not have the knowledge to leave them in the old country. To kill them because they are viewed as vermin by whatever means disgusts me. Carbon monoxide poisoning is cruel. Description of a weed: a plant in the wrong place. Description of a fox: an animal in the wrong place. The damage of both to the environment they move into is catastrophic. Foxes are sneaky vile little critters who get into places where a bullet cannot go, but the carbon monoxide finds them and off to sleep they go. The natural environment needs this to happen. Souff cant help wondering if the chap who trained those dog shouldnt be contacting the Tassi government asap. Forget where I spotted it but they have confirmed by dna of scats found there that there are at least 17 individual foxes and they are planning massive drops of 1080 the dogs finding the dens would be a far better way surely? surely the last thing they should be risking is 1080'ing the devil's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasels Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) Forget where I spotted it but they have confirmed by dna of scats found there that there are at least 17 individual foxes http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/features/online/6235/the-fox-and-devil http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-05/foxes-threaten-mass-extinctions/4408604 Edited December 7, 2012 by TheLBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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