MelissaS Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Hi there, There is a stunning Illiyrian sheepdog at Hawkesbury. I was coming here to ask the experts is this a rare breed? They said she was really relaxed and enjoyed a groom etc... I'm curious if this breed is like a lot of Livestock Guardian breeds and require an experienced or knowledgeable owner? I'm not looking for another dog, just curious as I have never seen this breed before. Stunning looking girl. Thanks :) Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I didn't think there were any in the country. Who did the breed ID? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Someone here was looking for one a while ago ... and I didn't think there were any here then.... where's Lilli?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diva Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I think there is a breeder in Australia, or at least someone who advertises as a breeder. from what I have heard they need a very capable owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelissaS Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 I think there is a breeder in Australia, or at least someone who advertises as a breeder. from what I have heard they need a very capable owner. That is what I assumed- they'd need an experienced owner etc. She is on the dogs available for adoption on Facebook by friends of Hawkesbury companion animal shelter. They post dogs that need adoption. It was on a FB wall post with others available for adoption. Stunning looking girl, hope she goes to the right sort of home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancinbcs Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I think there is a breeder in Australia, or at least someone who advertises as a breeder. from what I have heard they need a very capable owner. That is what I assumed- they'd need an experienced owner etc. She is on the dogs available for adoption on Facebook by friends of Hawkesbury companion animal shelter. They post dogs that need adoption. It was on a FB wall post with others available for adoption. Stunning looking girl, hope she goes to the right sort of home. If it is in a shelter it is highly unlikely to be a breed that no one knows is in the county yet. Rare imported breeds do not end up in shelters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diva Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) Some people know they are in the country, dancinbcs. From what I remember this would not be the first of the breed ending up in a shelter or pound. Whether this bitch is one I don't know. The more common name for the breed here is Sarplaninac. I don't think any are ANKC reg. Edited November 5, 2012 by Diva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelissaS Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) I'm no expert but had a bit of a look on the net and this dog does look like a Illyrian from the pics I could see. I don't know in all honesty.I have not met one and had not heard of them before. Thought Lilli or someone involved with Livestock Guarding breeds may know. If she is -I know is unusual but she may be in the pound for numerous reasons. She is shown on Hawkesbury pounds available dog list on their website her number is PCC809 Tried to post pic but I couldnt do it :laugh: Edited November 5, 2012 by MelissaS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becks Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 http://council.hawkesbury.nsw.gov.au/animalshelter/index.php?album=dogsℑ=PCC-809.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her Majesty Dogmad Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Well she is obviously chipped because they wouldn't call her an Illyrian, they wouldn't have known. Let's hope the owner's traceable. This same pound has had other rare breeds including Pharoah Hounds and a Pyrenean in recent years. Pound is in a rural area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) Thats not an illyrian sheepdog, it's a cross of one at best. By the way an Illyrian Sheepdog is basically a Sarplaninac, her coat is not long enough and she looks crossed with anatolian. She's a LGD, give her time to settle in and watch her go. She needs to be assessed either way by a LGD expert. Where does the name divide come in? Illyrians are basically modern Albanians. They occupied areas including the Sars Mountains which stretch from Kosovo, northwest Macedonia to northern Albania. Now we all now how much people love each other in these areas how many names do you think the Sarplaninac has? Edited November 5, 2012 by Nekhbet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Thats not an Illyrian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Thats not an Illyrian. Sounds like someone's had the dog breed encyclopaedia out then - hardly a first for a pound or shelter. I only hope this girl goes to a knowledgeable home or rescue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megan_ Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 When will they realise that by naming her as a rare breed the wring sorts get attracted? Better to say LGD x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdie Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 There have been a couple of adverts in Vic for Sarplaninac.May be where this one came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diva Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) previous thread Looks very similar to the one that was in a pound in 2010. I suspect it's not the shelter putting this ID on them, but the breeder. Someone mentioned Pharoahs earlier - you'd think a breed like that would be rare in rescue, but there are actually a lot that end up there. It just takes one breeder who isn't careful enough in where they place these special breeds for a rescue problem to emerge, no matter how rare the breed is otherwise. I'm not saying that is the case here, she could be there for a number of reasons. Edited November 5, 2012 by Diva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdie Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) 2 Breeders advertiseing down here. Edited November 6, 2012 by Purdie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Thats not an Illyrian. I think she may well be Sarplaninac. She is only 1 year old, so she is not fully formed. Conformation and coat both. Here are some Sarplaninac females. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espinay2 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Breeder here: http://southernstarsarp.com/index-old.htm I have sent them an email with a link in case it is one of theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdie Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I 've emailed the sarplaninac adverts to Hawkesbury pound just in case it;s of any help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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