Little Gifts Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 A very wrinkly foster pei that came to stay with us for a bit came with a sporn halter and that is the first time I've ever seen them. Mind you I kept putting it on wrong but the dog never ran off! I'm not sure I'd use them with a high energy dog (I prefer Puppia styles if possible) but what a great idea for dogs that need comfort under the armpit area and are happy to just plod along beside you on their walk! And I just noticed they are now selling at my local City Farmers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Labradork Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 (edited) A very wrinkly foster pei that came to stay with us for a bit came with a sporn halter and that is the first time I've ever seen them. Mind you I kept putting it on wrong but the dog never ran off! I'm not sure I'd use them with a high energy dog (I prefer Puppia styles if possible) but what a great idea for dogs that need comfort under the armpit area and are happy to just plod along beside you on their walk! And I just noticed they are now selling at my local City Farmers. My Lab is a high energy dog and the Sporn halter calms her right down. I swear she's like a different dog. With the head halter she does all these crazy flips and rolls. She's a real livewire. Edited November 23, 2012 by Labradork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Gifts Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 That is great to know Labradork as I only ever thought of them from a comfort perspective and not a control aspect! I suppose they wouldn't be great sellers if they were just for comfort! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Labradork Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 (edited) That is great to know Labradork as I only ever thought of them from a comfort perspective and not a control aspect! I suppose they wouldn't be great sellers if they were just for comfort! My vet recommended the Sporn halter because we were worried about her hurting herself with the head halter. We walk much better now. It's much more fun and relaxed. She doesn't walk right beside me but I don't mind that for now - as long as she isn't doing her crazy gymnastics. Edited November 23, 2012 by Labradork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan3 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Really? Who cares? Their point was correct - the harness does work by applying aversive pressure. Seriously, hit the ignore button if it bothers you that much. No point 'discussing' anything if we all have the same opinion.. What opinion would that be? I think you've missed the point of my comment entirely. If people want to criticise others for their choices (without knowing the story), maybe they should check that their reasoning isn't, in fact, self-contradictory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-j Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 People ... people ... people ... we have totally forgotten the thing that will actually fix the dog! TRAINING! *faint* throw the equipment in the bin and train the dog. Really, stop worrying about what the dog likes and doesnt like, it's why the dog is needing more equipment and changing it. I don't think anyone said that the Sporn halter was a substitute for training. I don't see why the dog isn't being trained/conditioned with a Sporn. As has been mentioned the dog sees pulling on it unpleasant so couldn't it used as the motivator to walk in a position or at a certain distance from you etc. Not how I use a no-pull harness, but essentially the removal of something the dog doesn't like is what is stopping the dog from pulling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Labradork Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 (edited) People ... people ... people ... we have totally forgotten the thing that will actually fix the dog! TRAINING! *faint* throw the equipment in the bin and train the dog. Really, stop worrying about what the dog likes and doesnt like, it's why the dog is needing more equipment and changing it. I don't think anyone said that the Sporn halter was a substitute for training. I don't see why the dog isn't being trained/conditioned with a Sporn. As has been mentioned the dog sees pulling on it unpleasant so couldn't it used as the motivator to walk in a position or at a certain distance from you etc. Not how I use a no-pull harness, but essentially the removal of something the dog doesn't like is what is stopping the dog from pulling. What do you mean by "Not how I use a no-pull harness?" Is it at all possible for people in this thread, especially the ones who claim to have dog training experience, to offer some constructive advice instead of bagging everything other people have to say? And you wonder why we (the clients) don't take our dogs to obedience training as often as we should. Do you realise how off-putting your arrogance is? I have had a gutful of the p*ss poor attitude from some of the people in this thread and I won't be returning to it again. Edited November 23, 2012 by Labradork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Labradork Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 One more thing... I'm sick of people insinuating that I am intentionally causing pain or distress to my dog. What kind of person do you think I am? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-j Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 People ... people ... people ... we have totally forgotten the thing that will actually fix the dog! TRAINING! *faint* throw the equipment in the bin and train the dog. Really, stop worrying about what the dog likes and doesnt like, it's why the dog is needing more equipment and changing it. I don't think anyone said that the Sporn halter was a substitute for training. I don't see why the dog isn't being trained/conditioned with a Sporn. As has been mentioned the dog sees pulling on it unpleasant so couldn't it used as the motivator to walk in a position or at a certain distance from you etc. Not how I use a no-pull harness, but essentially the removal of something the dog doesn't like is what is stopping the dog from pulling. What do you mean by "Not how I use a no-pull harness?" Is it at all possible for people in this thread, especially the ones who claim to have dog training experience, to offer some constructive advice instead of bagging everything other people have to say? And you wonder why we (the clients) don't take our dogs to obedience training as often as we should. Do you realise how off-putting your arrogance is? I have had a gutful of the p*ss poor attitude from some of the people in this thread and I won't be returning to it again. I'm sorry but my post was no way intended to be bagging anyone out I was just putting my thoughts across. What I meant by "not how I use it" was in reference to the two examples I used. I only use the no-pull harness to stop the dog pulling I'm just the mobile post :) I don't use it to teach the dog to do something as in the examples, just not to do something. I don't care where my dogs walk beside, behind, in front etc, just as long as they are not pulling me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-j Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 One more thing... I'm sick of people insinuating that I am intentionally causing pain or distress to my dog. What kind of person do you think I am? I wasn't insinuating anything. I use them myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Gifts Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Labradork I was using a sporn on a very underweight and very wrinkly shar pei foster dog and I would never have done anything to cause that poor boy more suffering. I thought it looked very comfortable and now I know it is actually a functioning harness for some dogs like yours too. I always prefer a harness on my dogs and foster dogs because I feel it enables *ME* to have more control. I've seen too many dogs pull their heads out of a collar. And most of the foster dogs I get aren't leash trained so I find them much more responsive to leash training wearing a harness. These different styles of equipment would not exist if they weren't meeting dog owners needs. Trust that you know what's working best for your dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Labradork Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Thanks guys. I'm sorry I overreacted. This is the most energetic dog I have ever owned. She is driving me bananas. I didn't realise how frustrated and upset I was with her. Lately, I have had thoughts of rehoming her and I feel so guilty about it. I was just so relieved when I found out about the bloody Sporn halter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trinabean Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Thanks guys. I'm sorry I overreacted. This is the most energetic dog I have ever owned. She is driving me bananas. I didn't realise how frustrated and upset I was with her. Lately, I have had thoughts of rehoming her and I feel so guilty about it. I was just so relieved when I found out about the bloody Sporn halter! Labradork I found the Sporn halter really helpful for my dog. I used it for a period of time (when nothing else was working for us with loose leash walking, including obedience classes) and then changed to a martingale collar. I still walk him on a martingale now and he walks nicely, not in a perfect heel, but without pulling. I'm happy with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allywil Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Allywil, you are correct. It works by applying aversive pressure under the armpits of the dog, which reduces pulling on leash. Thank you, I thought that must have been the case :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Labradork Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 One more thing... I'm sick of people insinuating that I am intentionally causing pain or distress to my dog. What kind of person do you think I am? I wasn't insinuating anything. I use them myself. This wasn't directed at you. I'm sorry it came across that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Labradork Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Thanks guys. I'm sorry I overreacted. This is the most energetic dog I have ever owned. She is driving me bananas. I didn't realise how frustrated and upset I was with her. Lately, I have had thoughts of rehoming her and I feel so guilty about it. I was just so relieved when I found out about the bloody Sporn halter! Labradork I found the Sporn halter really helpful for my dog. I used it for a period of time (when nothing else was working for us with loose leash walking, including obedience classes) and then changed to a martingale collar. I still walk him on a martingale now and he walks nicely, not in a perfect heel, but without pulling. I'm happy with that. Thanks for telling me this. I was starting to feel like a freak for not having a perfectly trained dog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allywil Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Here is the Sporn Halter operation for anyone interested: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fox Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Thanks guys. I'm sorry I overreacted. This is the most energetic dog I have ever owned. She is driving me bananas. I didn't realise how frustrated and upset I was with her. Lately, I have had thoughts of rehoming her and I feel so guilty about it. I was just so relieved when I found out about the bloody Sporn halter! Labradork I found the Sporn halter really helpful for my dog. I used it for a period of time (when nothing else was working for us with loose leash walking, including obedience classes) and then changed to a martingale collar. I still walk him on a martingale now and he walks nicely, not in a perfect heel, but without pulling. I'm happy with that. Thanks for telling me this. I was starting to feel like a freak for not having a perfectly trained dog! Very few people have a perfectly trained dog, it's all a learning experience and nothing to be ashamed of. How old is your dog Labradork? Is she a pet only or are you training in any particular discipline - dog sports etc? If she's overly energetic giving her a 'job' may help to satisfy and settle her. Have you thought about tracking? http://www.trackingclubvic.org.au/v2/index.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Labradork Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Thanks guys. I'm sorry I overreacted. This is the most energetic dog I have ever owned. She is driving me bananas. I didn't realise how frustrated and upset I was with her. Lately, I have had thoughts of rehoming her and I feel so guilty about it. I was just so relieved when I found out about the bloody Sporn halter! Labradork I found the Sporn halter really helpful for my dog. I used it for a period of time (when nothing else was working for us with loose leash walking, including obedience classes) and then changed to a martingale collar. I still walk him on a martingale now and he walks nicely, not in a perfect heel, but without pulling. I'm happy with that. Thanks for telling me this. I was starting to feel like a freak for not having a perfectly trained dog! Very few people have a perfectly trained dog, it's all a learning experience and nothing to be ashamed of. How old is your dog Labradork? Is she a pet only or are you training in any particular discipline - dog sports etc? If she's overly energetic giving her a 'job' may help to satisfy and settle her. Have you thought about tracking? http://www.trackingclubvic.org.au/v2/index.php My Lab is 5 months old and she is a pet. I would like us to get involved in some form of dog sports, just for fun and not to compete. I have just started reading up on tracking. I think she would be really good at this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilaryo Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I understand it is preferable to train your dog to loose leash walk :) Some of us just want to walk our dogs and it be an enjoyable experience for both of us. Most of our beagles are great on a flat collar or check chain and we allow them to sniff some of the time as they are scent hounds. However, my 9 year old male is inpossible to walk without his sporn harness. I absolutely love it! Just my preference as I dislike head halters :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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