Guest Labradork Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 (edited) I bought a Sporn halter today. They're fantastic! Poppy loves it and she really enjoyed her walk tonight. I was using a Black Dog Infin8 halter before that, but she used to roll on the grass and try to pull it off all the time. I wonder if they'll let her wear it at obedience training? This is the Sporn halter... http://sporn.com/training/sporn-halter/ Edited November 23, 2012 by Labradork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffyluv Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I use a Lupi harness on Ziggy, it works the same.. Pulls ups under their front legs.. I must admit the sporn looks mor comfortable than the lupi harness.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlc Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I used the sport harness on two of mine when they were youngsters, they worked great. Can't see why they wouldn't let you use them at training? After using them for a while mine just 'got it' and I didn't need to use them any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimax Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I use the sporn mesh front on one of mine (same but without the collar part as she's as pug) and it's really No different visually to any other harness, so I can't see why you wouldn't be able to use it at training. They probably wouldn't even know what it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Labradork Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 (edited) I live in a rural area and my club is run by hillbilly rednecks, so I would be surprised if any of them had heard of it. Edited November 23, 2012 by Labradork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Crazy Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I actually brought one of those Sporn harnesses LDork for my daughter in laws Amstaff. Works wonders on "Thumper". She actually has a lot more control with him now & he hasn't had much training or anything. I love the Infin8 halters & use them all the time but you can't use them on dogs with short muzzels, like Amstaffs, Boxers or alike. With the Infins they will rub their face etc at first but you just take it slowly, 5 mins at a time & gradually attach the lead etc I find they work really well. Plus I love the fact that once they improve on lead you just remove the nose band & they are working on a martigale collar then as both mine are now. Sounds like your need to find a new dog club, rednecks errr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Labradork Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) I bought the Infin8 halter for Poppy because she has a long, lean neck and smallish head for a Labrador. She associates the Infin8 halter with a positive thing (walking), and she is excited when she sees it, but once we are out walking she just wants it off. I don't enjoy going to my club and the nearest one is over 90 minutes away. I'm looking at having some one-on-one sessions with a private trainer. I got a quote from someone yesterday for $50 an hour. Edited November 23, 2012 by Labradork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Crazy Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) Gee that is reasonable Ldork. Im in a similar situation regarding local clubs . Its 4o min away. We only have one & they are still in the dark ages regarding the methods they use. I choose to pay for private tuition. My trainer is very busy though & don't get to see her as often as Id like to. I would like to go regularly. Edited November 6, 2012 by BC Crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I don't know of any obedience clubs that will let you use a harness on your dog for obedience training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Crazy Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Yes I was thinking the same thing re the harness issue. They allow halti, infin's & alike but I don't think harnesses :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Labradork Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) Gee that is reasonable Ldork. Im in a similar situation regarding local clubs . Its 4o min away. We only have one & they are still in the dark ages regarding the methods they use. I choose to pay for private tuition. My trainer is very busy though & don't get to see her as often as Id like to. I would like to go regularly. The trainer I spoke to has a 7 month old German Shepherd and a 7 year old Poodle cross...and she offered to bring both of them to socialise Poppy, which was nice of her. Also, she lives in the same suburb as me and I can see her once a week. Edited November 23, 2012 by Labradork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Labradork Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) I don't know of any obedience clubs that will let you use a harness on your dog for obedience training. Okay, thanks. The trainer suggested a Halti brand halter instead of an Infin8 halter. She said the nose strap on the Infin8 halter is too thin and irritates the dog's nose. Edited November 23, 2012 by Labradork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimax Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I don't know of any obedience clubs that will let you use a harness on your dog for obedience training. Really? What's the basis for that? And what are you supposed to use? I was looking into obedience for my guys once my schedule suits next year,but if we can't use a harness then it might not suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Depends on the club. Most clubs allow flat collar, martingale collar, headcollar. The odd one allows check chains. I don't think a harness allows for as clear communication between dog and handler, or as much control in a busy environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Labradork Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) I don't know of any obedience clubs that will let you use a harness on your dog for obedience training. Really? What's the basis for that? And what are you supposed to use? I was looking into obedience for my guys once my schedule suits next year,but if we can't use a harness then it might not suit. Surely they would have to make an exception for Pugs? Edited November 23, 2012 by Labradork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Crazy Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) Gee that is reasonable Ldork. Im in a similar situation regarding local clubs . Its 4o min away. We only have one & they are still in the dark ages regarding the methods they use. I choose to pay for private tuition. My trainer is very busy though & don't get to see her as often as Id like to. I would like to go regularly. The trainer I spoke to has a 7 month old German Shepherd and a 7 year old Poodle cross...and she offered to bring both of them to socialise Poppy, which was nice of her. Also, she lives in the same suburb as me and I can see her once a week :) Sounds like you are off to a great start Ldork & she is close by which is really good too. I haven't been for ages so you I am trying to get to see my trainer next month if she has spare time. She is very busy, pretty much all the time but I am lucky as I am at home most days so I can arrange myself around when it's suits her. She is 1 hours drive away which doesn't bother me as she is marvellous :) Edited November 6, 2012 by BC Crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I don't know of any obedience clubs that will let you use a harness on your dog for obedience training. Really? What's the basis for that? And what are you supposed to use? I was looking into obedience for my guys once my schedule suits next year,but if we can't use a harness then it might not suit. Surely, they would have to make an exception for Pugs ?? I don't know, you would have to ask individual clubs about their equipment policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconRange Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) I don't know of any obedience clubs that will let you use a harness on your dog for obedience training. It depends on the club. Mine allows use of check chain, flat collar, martingale, head halters (Halti, infin8 etc.), and harnesses, including the Sporn. Generally harnesses (car harnesses) are recommended against, as they aren't conducive to loose lead walking. However, some dogs work better on one, and in the case of the Sporn etc., they may be more effective than a head halter depending on the dog and its morphology. Braccy breeds certainly are safer on them if flat collars and check chains aren't considered an option by the handler. They can also help the handler become more confident in handling their dog before graduating up to a flat collar or check chain. Realistically, if would be sad if a club scolded a handler for preferring a harness over a collar, especially in the beginning stages. Most of our handlers are average pet owners, and if they feel alienated, they are likely to leave and not find another club. Better to either gently suggest a more preferred option and/or teach them slowly with equipment they're more comfortable with than lose them altogether for being strict. Edited November 6, 2012 by FalconRange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimax Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I don't know of any obedience clubs that will let you use a harness on your dog for obedience training. Really? What's the basis for that? And what are you supposed to use? I was looking into obedience for my guys once my schedule suits next year,but if we can't use a harness then it might not suit. Surely, they would have to make an exception for Pugs ?? I don't know, you would have to ask individual clubs about their equipment policy. hmm, interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Each club would have its own equipment policy, how strict they are regarding that is up to the individual club, what they will have in common if ANKC affiliated is not allow the use of pinch collars or ecollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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