Loving my Oldies Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) The fault is in the system. Any dog can go out to anyone and just because private rescue screen people who are taking them fact is NSW pounds could care less. Unfortunately, that is the case, Steve. No home checks, no mandatory desexing (starting to be introduced in some places admittedly). Someone comes in and wants to buy a dog and the deal is done. That said, in the vast majority of cases, those homes would be very bit as good as would have been found via a rescue organisation. How do you know? Arcane who already owns a Skye Terrier has pointed out that their temperament may not suit everybody. I've worked and volunteered in pounds and I've been involved in rescue for a long time, so probably have a fair bit of anecdotal reference. One example of a breed that may not suit everybody hardly constitutes an argument for not allowing so called rare breeds to be rehomed via pounds. Edited November 13, 2012 by Danny's Darling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 There are many dogs in pounds all over the country (of full or mixed heritage) who may not suit everybody. Just because this particular dog is of a specific and identifiable breed, who are we to decide - without any evidence to the contrary may I add - that the people wanting this dog and placed their name on him first are any less capable of giving him a great forever home? Unfortunately, none of the people involved from this side got it together enough to place their name on him first - and by the rules of this particular pound, he will be offered to the first EOI holder. It is a reasonably fair system for all when you look at the overall picture... T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 in this type of ststem you will get good and bad stories and the pound or those working from it are probably the last to hear of them. Pacers received a call for help about 4 weeks ago from someone who had 19 dogs and the council were onto [Victoria] - we didn't help them because they didn't fit the criteria but 8 of these dogs came from Blacktown pound - the rest form various pounds around the country some via pound rounds .These people certainly sounded as if they cared and loved the dogs and provided them with their needs but I couldn't help feel they had been set up to fail by being able to take on so many without some screening. Mind you if someone wants 19 dogs they will probably get them anyway but Id prefer them going through some greater process than just putting their hand up first. This just exposes the system for what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schnauzer Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) IMO it is preferable for a specific breed to go to breed rescue. They know the breed and its traits, usually have a waiting list of experienced homes available. This also frees up a space for another dog to be rescued - a win win situation. Unfortunately bybs/pfs get stock from pounds that do not have mandatory desexing. efs Edited November 13, 2012 by schnauzer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glemhaith Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) It's not just the numeric rarity of this particular breed but more over their unique temperament . They are not in the league of many of the other small fluffy little dogs, not even many of the other terriers. People adopting a Skye need to understand that there is a strong willful aloof mindset under all that hair. They have surprising substance & strength and the will to use it if they are uncomfortable with the situation they are in. I could talk all day about it, but it is a truly unique temperament, and one which may be an underlying cause of them ending up in rehoming situations if not properly understood & managed. I have been a 3 x a Chow owner, and I find many parallels, which is why I probably love the Skye so much. http://www.dolforums.com.au/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif Well said !!! They are a dog that may quite easily end up on the wrong roundabout Edited November 13, 2012 by glemhaith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 They are a dog that can and will end up on the wrong roundabout As can any dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boronia Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 They are a dog that can and will end up on the wrong roundabout As can any dog. Yes, but this dog is a Magic Roundabout dog, which means he is an extra-special dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 It's not just the numeric rarity of this particular breed but more over their unique temperament . They are not in the league of many of the other small fluffy little dogs, not even many of the other terriers. People adopting a Skye need to understand that there is a strong willful aloof mindset under all that hair. They have surprising substance & strength and the will to use it if they are uncomfortable with the situation they are in. I could talk all day about it, but it is a truly unique temperament, and one which may be an underlying cause of them ending up in rehoming situations if not properly understood & managed. I have been a 3 x a Chow owner, and I find many parallels, which is why I probably love the Skye so much. http://www.dolforums...fault/smile.gif Well said !!! They are a dog that may quite easily end up on the wrong roundabout They are a dog that can and will end up on the wrong roundabout As can any dog. I'll again point out that rescue DOLers have whinged mightily about pedigree dog breeders not taking back their dogs. I've whinged about it; I whinged about it yesterday in a thread in general. Here is a dog that should be going to a breeder because those breeders know breed inside out and now rescue is saying that hey, it doesn't matter anymore. A dog can go anywhere and to anyone. Why doesn't it matter? Well, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Only some rescue DOLers whinge about pedigree breeders taking back dogs they have bred... same as there are a lot of rescues that can't or won't take back dogs they have rehomed also. Nothing is ever completely black and white when it comes to that particular issue... Rescue aren't saying that "a dog can go anywhere and to anyone" - we choose the homes of our charges with careful consideration of what is best for the individual dog. That said, reputable rescue don't tend to generalise about a specific breed (or mix) either - each individual dog is assessed and rehomed on it's own particular merits. Saying that all Skyes are going to always have exactly the same temperament and should only be handled by Skye "people" is a bit silly IMHO... *grin* That would be like me saying all Maltese are nasty little things that will bite without provocation, and should only ever be homed or rehomed by experienced Maltese "people"... which obviously isn't the case, right? Seriously, the Maltese and their crosses I've come across in pounds couldn't be anything more different from some of the nasty little well loved and doted on ankle biters I've had the misfortune to meet out in public - maybe they end up in the pound because their "nasty" is broken? *giggle* As for railing against the EOI system BP have in place - it is there because it is the fairest way of doing it in that environment for all interested parties. I think you'll find that most pounds work to the same system. The breed specialists weren't quick enough in this case for whatever reasons, and the pound is definitely not going to tell a prospective new owner they can't have the dog they chose because some faceles breed specialists insist that they are the only people "qualified" to rehome this dog. I think you all may just have to suck it up this time and remember the lesson for any future time a dog of your breed is stuck in a pound. T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) Edited cause i can't be bothered,and not worth a warning :laugh: Edited November 13, 2012 by juice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I read the original response juice - and there's no way you could get reported for it... certainly not by me anyways... *grin* But like I said before - please go back and reread my posts in their full context - you may see what I was actually saying rather than what you wanted to read into them... T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Yes, but this dog is a Magic Roundabout dog, which means he is an extra-special dog You are naughty, Boronia, and not nearly reverential enough :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glemhaith Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I don't think Dougal is the only one on this roundabout ! ...well I for one am hopping off ...I like 98% of Skye people will just continue to do what we have always done, and that isto try to be the best custodians we can & try to look out for our breed to the best of our abilities. This has been my first time on this forum... I have met some lovely PRO ACTIVE members and whom I hope to keep in contact with :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 For what it's worth, our rescue has a Skye cross in care at the moment... anyone interested in adopting him? He's a really sweet chap, gets on with others nicely, and loves cuddle time... T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 For what it's worth, our rescue has a Skye cross in care at the moment... anyone interested in adopting him? He's a really sweet chap, gets on with others nicely, and loves cuddle time... T. WOW!! A very different breed indeed. must be mostly the cross - LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glemhaith Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 For what it's worth, our rescue has a Skye cross in care at the moment... anyone interested in adopting him? He's a really sweet chap, gets on with others nicely, and loves cuddle time... T. WOW!! A very different breed indeed. must be mostly the cross - LOL. send me a photo please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her Majesty Dogmad Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 My best suggestion would be for someone representing the Skye breeders to contact Blacktown and asked them to pass on their contact information to forward to the new owner, offering breed expertise etc. That way, should the new owner run into any difficulties because they don't know the breed or the dog isn't working out, then the breeders will be able to assist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her Majesty Dogmad Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Meanwhile, there is still the 11 yr old female Skye terrier in need, should anyone be able to help her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 For what it's worth, our rescue has a Skye cross in care at the moment... anyone interested in adopting him? He's a really sweet chap, gets on with others nicely, and loves cuddle time... T. WOW!! A very different breed indeed. must be mostly the cross - LOL. send me a photo please I can get photos of our boy on the weekend - last weekend he was a little bit sorry for himself after his desexing, so we just settled for lots of cuddle time instead of getting him out to perform for the camera... *grin* He has had a fairly simple but neat haircut, not a proper Skye one, but his size and shape should give you an idea whether he has a lot or a little Skye in him... he has the most intelligent eyes too... T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glemhaith Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Meanwhile, there is still the 11 yr old female Skye terrier in need, should anyone be able to help her. The Skye breeders have collectively sent out info about this dear girl and I am pleased to say that there one is good home interest for her . This dear girl's owner sadly passed away and her son has surrendered her.I hope to have an answer about this girl by Monday........ So sad that her worst fete was to outlive her person.Thank you for your for you thoughts for this girl . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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