Puppy Pees On Bedding

[Inka3095]

Thanks for the great tips Brookestar, really appreciate it :)

Just a couple of questions from that if you wouldn't mind?

At the moment, I'm taking her out on leash before bed and she's simply not peeing recently. Can try 3-4 times over the hour or so before we put her in the crate for the night and she just mucks around, sniffs, plays, chews on her lead, leaps on my legs etc etc. Not sure what to do about this....

Also, to get her trained to the 'wee wees' command, I don't think I'm doing it right I was told to say the command just before she pees, but because she's so unpredictable with her wees, she doesn't do the 'sniff sniff circle wee' thing all my other dogs have done because she mucks around so much. So I can't say 'wee wees' just as she's peeing or just before she is, because I don't get her in time and she's already mid-pee by the time I say it, OR I do, and it distracts her and she turns around and stops peeing. I could scream! Any ideas?

And finally, saying the word 'yes' after peeing is better than 'good girl?'

[Guest donatella]

Definitely go to the vet and explain to this to them Inka. My oldest girl as a pup about the same age used to lie on my bed with me and I would notice urine patches on it from where she was lying It was like she didn't even know she was going so I whipped her straight to the vet, 5 days on oral ab's and no more weeing on my bed/her bed.

I'm convinced she had a UTI as a pup seeing as it resolved with the treatment.

[minimax]

Thanks for the great tips Brookestar, really appreciate it :)

Just a couple of questions from that if you wouldn't mind?

At the moment, I'm taking her out on leash before bed and she's simply not peeing recently. Can try 3-4 times over the hour or so before we put her in the crate for the night and she just mucks around, sniffs, plays, chews on her lead, leaps on my legs etc etc. Not sure what to do about this....

Also, to get her trained to the 'wee wees' command, I don't think I'm doing it right I was told to say the command just before she pees, but because she's so unpredictable with her wees, she doesn't do the 'sniff sniff circle wee' thing all my other dogs have done because she mucks around so much. So I can't say 'wee wees' just as she's peeing or just before she is, because I don't get her in time and she's already mid-pee by the time I say it, OR I do, and it distracts her and she turns around and stops peeing. I could scream! Any ideas?

And finally, saying the word 'yes' after peeing is better than 'good girl?'

You have to give her the command as she pees so she associates it with peeing (or just after, it depends on the dog. sometimes saying it during peeing can distract them and stop them peeing). saying it before she pees doesn't associate it with anything except sniffing and circling.

When you take her out on the lead, does she get play time as well, or is it only pee time? If she's on the lead, you are 100% in control and can stop her playing and leaping. If she doesn't get play time, she could associate peeing with being put to bed (which could be bad or boring, so what's the point in peeing if it's just going to lead to bedtime?). however, if peeing is followed by 10 minutes off lead play time, it cuold be more enticing.

the yes vs good girl is just whatever your praise word is, it doesn't matter what the actual word is, people use different words. As long as you're consistent in your praise word/phrase.

[persephone]

toilet on command is taught here..and , yes, timing is everything :)

you need to watch your pup all the time..and when peeing , just say the cue word ( just in an ordinary voice tone ..several times) ... I use 'quick quick' every single time your pup pees ...then good pup , and a little play .

then say the word when your pup is about to squat ...then when you let her out ......then when she is on leash, in a particular spot...etc.

[Inka3095]

She hates her lead/harness and spends lots of time fighting it/twisting her head around to bite it or just leaping on my legs when I use it but if I just go out with her she mucks around with other things.

After a pee I give her praise and a treat but don't want to rev her up too much before bed because she screams even more than usual in her crate when I do

[minimax]

She hates her lead/harness and spends lots of time fighting it/twisting her head around to bite it or just leaping on my legs when I use it but if I just go out with her she mucks around with other things.

After a pee I give her praise and a treat but don't want to rev her up too much before bed because she screams even more than usual in her crate when I do

That's hard, but it sounds like somewhere in that routine something needs to change, because it sounds like it's not working :/

Can you have some quiet time after peeing, but before bed? Cuddles, or a brush? Some attention time, but soothing time?

I don't know what to do for a pup who fights the lead, but I'm sure someone else here will have some advice for that.

Is she crate trained?

[Brookestar]

What words you use for praise doesn't really matter. I use "yes" instead of a clicker, as it allows me to mark the behaviour I want, in the second. Good Girl, takes slightly longer and so is not as exact. My dogs associate yes with treats, play time, etc. Hence it is a higher level reward. They know that yes, means that something good will come soon, good girl is just a few words of praise and while they like it and thrive on praise, the yes is the ultimate for them.

In terms of the leash, it sounds as if they are not used to it enough. Keep a collar on the pup all the time. Practice walking around the house and yard on leash - don't just use it for toileting, and if she starts to stuff around, give a very small gentle correction by pulling on the leash. The slight tug allows her to know this is not OK. Don't allow her to pull on the lead. If she pulls, do not pull back, just stand and wait for her to stop. Then the second she stops pulling move again. You can also try attaching the leash to her inside and simply allow her to pull it around, without you holding onto it, but don't allow her to chew on it. Carry a favourite toy out with you.

During the day play with her after peeing. And ONLY play with her after peeing. Play outside after peeing and then come in and play inside as well. A few minutes outside and some time inside as well. Don't allow her off leash outside, unless she has peed. Peeing outside, equals treats and play time, off leash. No pee equals nothing at all. At night give her a massage or some other touch to settle her down. If you are not already doing it, putting a cover over the crate can help. Just a sheet or something over the top means she is not able to see out of it, and it can often help to calm them down. I do put a nyla bone in crates with puppies at night, to give them something to chew on.

Make sure your voice remains calm at all times. If you are stressed or getting angry they pick up on it. They also feel stress down the leash, so the more you pull back on the leash, the more they feel it. Very slight gentle tugs to say not OK, is all that is needed. Silence is golden.

[Inka3095]

Thanks again :)

I don't have a collar on her at all while she's inside with me because

1) she hates it and tries to chew it off which, because she's twisting her neck around all the time, she is then reminded her of her tail being there, which causes her to chase her tail and then the spinning starts... something I'm trying to discourage strongly

2) I've been told it will cause her fur to rub/mark - sorry I'm just going on other people's shiba advice, I don't personally know if it's going to do any damage to her coat/s long-term

But if wearing a collar will help her settle more with a leash etc, then it's at least worth a decent try :)

She coughs and sputters and chokes very quickly with any neck pressure, so tugging on the lead usually leads to all sorts of dramas, which is why we switched to one of those harnesses that tightens under the legs when they pull, because she was too difficult to train not to pull and would choke herself until her tongue went purple every single walk which increased my frustration with her to walking AND home. Not great. So now she runs from the harness and cringes when I put it on her, then irritably snaps and worries at it during each walk because it's annoying I guess. But until I can enroll in a good training/obedience class this will just have to do because I cannot train her to walk nicely. No method I've read about or been told has worked with her yet. She doesn't care that I stop when she pulls, she just hangs herself on the end of the lead trying to pull whether we're stationary or walking.

I've taken her to two different puppy schools, the first was quite basic and the second was the positive reinforcement only type, that had very little idea what advice to give when she doesn't respond to things. For example, her leaping on my legs is met with being ignored, then when she gets down and is nicely 'paws on the floor' for a bit then I'll give her some attention. This has been for months, and she hasn't decreased the amount of leaping on my legs by even 1%. I know it's me and not her that's bad at this training thing, as dogs are only as good as you show them how to be, but I have to say, the whole thing is making me weary at the moment. I hope she and/or I improve as she gets older.