mixeduppup Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 (edited) Just a genetics question Can two black and white (mostly black with minimal white) dogs produce brown and white puppies and have a whole litter that is mostly white? Just wondering what the likelihood of that happening is? Thanks Edited October 5, 2012 by mixeduppup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 It would depend on the genetics behind the pups. Certainly in border collies 2 black and whites can produce chocolate and white as the chocolate gene is recessive. Puppies need to have 2 copies of the gene to be that colour, if each parent has 1 copy of the gene then it is possible that they will be black and white yet produce puppies that are chocolate. Excessive white also occurs in some lines too. A friend has a beautiful border collie with 2 pale blue eyes and totally white rom his shoulders forward. Not correct but he is a very striking dog to look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixeduppup Posted October 5, 2012 Author Share Posted October 5, 2012 OK thank for that, I don't know anything about colour genetics :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casowner Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Is this another veiled thread at those border collies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megan_ Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 It would be great if people would just drop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixeduppup Posted October 5, 2012 Author Share Posted October 5, 2012 No it was a general question. I was wondering for real. I don't do veiled threads. It was something I was interested in knowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimax Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Sounds like an innocent question to me. Took me ages to figure out the logistics of how my black pug had a fawn mum, lol. Colour genetics are tricky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffyluv Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I like these threads. I find them extremely interesting.. We are lucky to have so many knowledgable people here on DOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 My sable border collie has a black & white dad and a blue & white mum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixeduppup Posted October 5, 2012 Author Share Posted October 5, 2012 Colour genetics are beyond me, is there a useful link I could read explaining it in layman's terms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Are You Serious Jo Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Aren't you a breeder mixeduppup, I thought you bred working kelpies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixeduppup Posted October 5, 2012 Author Share Posted October 5, 2012 (edited) I own a WKC stud but am yet to breed any dogs. I've had pups (that I've bought and other people's that I've raised) and trained. Also colour genetics aren't a big priority in working dogs. Edited October 5, 2012 by mixeduppup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I like this site for border collie colours - http://www.bryningbordercollies.com/Border-Collie-Colours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixeduppup Posted October 5, 2012 Author Share Posted October 5, 2012 Thanks Jules :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tralee Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Colour Question? Yellow, of course. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixeduppup Posted October 5, 2012 Author Share Posted October 5, 2012 Colour Question? Yellow, of course. :D What a good choice, here's a flower for your effort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Are You Serious Jo Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Dilutes are found in working dogs so best to do some reading before you start breeding. Plenty of info on the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasels Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 (edited) My dilute kelpie has a terrible coat, so that's something else to worry about (possibly dilution alopecia) Edited October 5, 2012 by Weasels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixeduppup Posted October 5, 2012 Author Share Posted October 5, 2012 (edited) I plan to. I emailed the WKC yesterday asking for info on colour genetics and that's why I'm doing research. Although I'm a black and tan groupie so my pups will all end up being that colour hopefully lol. I don't think my bitch has any red in her lineage at all and definitely no dilutes. So I'll make sure I do lots of research and then check whichever dog I choose colour background as well. Edited October 5, 2012 by mixeduppup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancinbcs Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 (edited) Two other useful sites about colour are: Dog Coat Colour Genetics- for basics SINE Insertion - this one for a complex explanation of tan markings. Edited October 5, 2012 by dancinbcs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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