minimax Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 How is asal spamming? Posted the same thing now about 8 times. it was scarey and weird but how about a bit of accuracy eh? or would 80,000 sound better for you? Orrrrr you could just delete them and we could move on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasels Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Well i wish they had asked my opinion of the RSPCA, i could have given them a horror story of my first and last time i dealt with the pack of bastards whilst fostering a cavvie mum and her babies, all of which ended up in body bags for "temperament" issues. The Cavalier mum being a puppy farm bitch, was understandably nervous and the 4 week old puppies that were euthansed for temperament issues .... well for starters who the hell temperament tests 4 week old puppies??!! It still breaks my heart. Oh that was you :) good on you. I find it very disturbing that the RSPCA temperment testing is still not explained and that a dog can fail for showing interest in a Rabbit. Both of my dogs would and as they should they are Whippets. They would also appear very stand offish and one in particular would avoid interacting with people he didn't know. How is it that two wonderful well socialised pets could fail just becasue of their crap temperment testing?????? Whipit I was thinking of you and Izzy while the RSPCA guy was rabbitting on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asal Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 How is asal spamming? Posted the same thing now about 8 times. it was scarey and weird but how about a bit of accuracy eh? or would 80,000 sound better for you? Orrrrr you could just delete them and we could move on? are you serious?????? they ARE DELETED LONG BEFORe YOU WASTED TIME AND SPACE POSTING this above? how about checking for a bit of accuracy before making your comments :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimax Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 How is asal spamming? Posted the same thing now about 8 times. it was scarey and weird but how about a bit of accuracy eh? or would 80,000 sound better for you? Orrrrr you could just delete them and we could move on? are you serious?????? they ARE DELETED LONG BEFORe YOU WASTED TIME AND SPACE POSTING this above? how about checking for a bit of accuracy before making your comments :laugh: I was more talking about the moving on - on your part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 How is asal spamming? Posted the same thing now about 8 times. Hardly spamming when its done by accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asal Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) How is asal spamming? Posted the same thing now about 8 times. it was scarey and weird but how about a bit of accuracy eh? or would 80,000 sound better for you? Orrrrr you could just delete them and we could move on? are you serious?????? they ARE DELETED LONG BEFORe YOU WASTED TIME AND SPACE POSTING this above? how about checking for a bit of accuracy before making your comments :laugh: I was more talking about the moving on - on your part what a cute icon love it is there one for time for a kit kat to go with the Edited September 25, 2012 by asal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melzawelza Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Wasn't it someone associated with the RSPCA who said we need a "governing body/ombudsman" for pets? Isn't that meant to be what the RSPCA does He had worked there from 2003-2005 as their behaviourist. But his experience has left him decrying the RSPCA and their actions. He had a LOT more to say on the night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 We need an INDEPENDENT governing body for those who are given quasi Police powers dealing with animal issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noisymina Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I'm glad I did not watch the programme. The RSPCA is now a totally different creature to what it was many years ago when I "adopted" my first dog. I only wish they would do now what they did then for that poor dog - and for myself as a very young, first time owner. She was a badly neglected dog with health issues. These days she would not last five minutes, let alone be rehomed. Minimax - lighten up. There are worse things in this world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimax Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 We need an INDEPENDENT governing body for those who are given quasi Police powers dealing with animal issues. Yep, agreed. But who would fund it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megan_ Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 We need an INDEPENDENT governing body for those who are given quasi Police powers dealing with animal issues. who is this independent governing body accountable to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 We need an INDEPENDENT governing body for those who are given quasi Police powers dealing with animal issues. Yep, agreed. But who would fund it? The state government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 We need an INDEPENDENT governing body for those who are given quasi Police powers dealing with animal issues. who is this independent governing body accountable to? there is no independent body at this time in Australia dealing with animal issues and there is no independent ombudsman type situation where members of th epublic can complain about any behaviour or activity of the RSPCA or AWL. The only accountability is a yearly audit of their donations just as every other charity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimax Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 We need an INDEPENDENT governing body for those who are given quasi Police powers dealing with animal issues. Yep, agreed. But who would fund it? The state government. And unfortunatly the reason why this independent body will never exist :/ We shall dub it the Unicorn Ombudsman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 A bit of history - some time ago the MDBA was approached to join a group which was intended to do this - the belief is that sooner or later there will be such a group without much input from various animal groups. I was told back before pedigreed dogs exposed was released that the goal was to have one group which woud oversee all issues relating to dogs. So I asked who else woud be on this committee - long story short the vast majority of the group were anti purebred breeding. We refused simply because it is akin to having 4 sheep sitting at the dinner table with 10 wolves voting on whats for dinner and the group never eventuated anyway. But there is a big background push on for some group to police all issues pertaining to dogs as there is in some parts of europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimax Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 A bit of history - some time ago the MDBA was approached to join a group which was intended to do this - the belief is that sooner or later there will be such a group without much input from various animal groups. I was told back before pedigreed dogs exposed was released that the goal was to have one group which woud oversee all issues relating to dogs. So I asked who else woud be on this committee - long story short the vast majority of the group were anti purebred breeding. We refused simply because it is akin to having 4 sheep sitting at the dinner table with 10 wolves voting on whats for dinner and the group never eventuated anyway. But there is a big background push on for some group to police all issues pertaining to dogs as there is in some parts of europe. Do we want the government defining what we can and can't do with our animals? Especially if they run it as they run the rest of the goverment, with no clue about what they are actually doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 A bit of history - some time ago the MDBA was approached to join a group which was intended to do this - the belief is that sooner or later there will be such a group without much input from various animal groups. I was told back before pedigreed dogs exposed was released that the goal was to have one group which woud oversee all issues relating to dogs. So I asked who else woud be on this committee - long story short the vast majority of the group were anti purebred breeding. We refused simply because it is akin to having 4 sheep sitting at the dinner table with 10 wolves voting on whats for dinner and the group never eventuated anyway. But there is a big background push on for some group to police all issues pertaining to dogs as there is in some parts of europe. Do we want the government defining what we can and can't do with our animals? Especially if they run it as they run the rest of the goverment, with no clue about what they are actually doing? Of course not but that's about what it will come to if it goes the way it is now - but separate issue we do want the state government setting up an ombusdman to investigate compliants against those charged with policing animal welfare laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimax Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 A bit of history - some time ago the MDBA was approached to join a group which was intended to do this - the belief is that sooner or later there will be such a group without much input from various animal groups. I was told back before pedigreed dogs exposed was released that the goal was to have one group which woud oversee all issues relating to dogs. So I asked who else woud be on this committee - long story short the vast majority of the group were anti purebred breeding. We refused simply because it is akin to having 4 sheep sitting at the dinner table with 10 wolves voting on whats for dinner and the group never eventuated anyway. But there is a big background push on for some group to police all issues pertaining to dogs as there is in some parts of europe. Do we want the government defining what we can and can't do with our animals? Especially if they run it as they run the rest of the goverment, with no clue about what they are actually doing? Of course not but that's about what it will come to if it goes the way it is now - but separate issue we do want the state government setting up an ombusdman to investigate compliants against those charged with policing animal welfare laws. So, police the police, not police the owners? That would definetly be a better scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melzawelza Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Well i wish they had asked my opinion of the RSPCA, i could have given them a horror story of my first and last time i dealt with the pack of bastards whilst fostering a cavvie mum and her babies, all of which ended up in body bags for "temperament" issues. The Cavalier mum being a puppy farm bitch, was understandably nervous and the 4 week old puppies that were euthansed for temperament issues .... well for starters who the hell temperament tests 4 week old puppies??!! It still breaks my heart. Whipitgood where has your thread about Izzy gone? Trying to link it for someone to read but can't find it... deleted? (PM me if need be). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Right now as the system stands there is a high risk of collusion and corruption and there is no where for the person feeling they are being treated poorly to go and no system to ensure that processes are accountable etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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