Dxenion Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 (edited) Our backyard has quite a few silk lined burrows (no trap door) and I found this 22mm long spider and a smaller 14mm long spider in the one burrow. Do not open the spoiler if you do not want to see a photo of a spider - you have been warned! What is it and is it dangerous to dogs? Edited to add we're on the Mornington Peninsula in Victoria. Edited September 18, 2012 by Dxenion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojath Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 (edited) If I'm correct, and it is a Mouse Spider, it could make you or your dogs nauseas and cause some localized pain & swelling. They have big 'fangs' and would hurt quite a lot I should think. Persephone may know exactly what it is..... Edited to say.... looks more like a Funnel Web on closer inspection... Similar results from a bite I'd imagine. Google "Hadronyche modesta"... I'm 100% sure that's him. Edited September 18, 2012 by jerojath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tassie Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I was thinking Wolf Spider - shouldn't be a problem if so Have a look at the Museum of Victoria site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetherglow Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 (edited) If it's a Victorian Funnelweb it's an unusual colour and far away from its known range, which is around the Dandenong Ranges... Maybe a Melbourne Trapdoor Spider? That seems to match the description and drawing here: http://museumvictoria.com.au/spiders/detail.aspx?pid=9&pic=1 If it's one of those, then the bite can be deep and painful, but not particularly poisonous. Edited for correct use of apostrophes :) Edited September 18, 2012 by LappieHappy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizT Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 The biggest risk with ANY spider bite is the secondary infection from those nasty fangs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayla1 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Trapdoor spider? I'm on the Peninsula too and have a lot of trapdoor spiders here, and they seem to vary in size and colour - some similar to your pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasels Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 (edited) I don't suppose you want to look at it's fangs and tell us whether they're pointing downwards or towards each other do you? :laugh: Edited September 18, 2012 by Weasels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dxenion Posted September 18, 2012 Author Share Posted September 18, 2012 Is this a better photo of the front? The things I do for my dog's safety! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leema Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I have no idea, but awesome looking spider! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megan_ Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I don't know but I'm never visiting my aunt in mount Eliza. Ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasels Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Is this a better photo of the front? The things I do for my dog's safety! :laugh: you're a trooper Dx! Still doesn't show the chelicerae but it looks like a Mygalomorph - I've decided to go with Jerojath: Hadronyche modesta http://biodiversitysnapshots.net.au/BDRS/public/speciesInfo.htm?spid=559&mode=fieldguide (click on the photo underneath the main pic) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tassie Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Is this a better photo of the front? The things I do for my dog's safety! :laugh: From that photo does look more like Vic Funnel Web Victorian Funnel-web Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayla1 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 In that second photo it looks just like the ones I get here. They have burrows everywhere in the garden, some with trap doors and some without. I do a lot of gardening and I've never been bitten, even when gardening right near their burrows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojath Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Is this a better photo of the front? The things I do for my dog's safety! :laugh: From that photo does look more like Vic Funnel Web Victorian Funnel-web Yep it's an exact match isn't it??? There are a few "geographical ranges" maps online, but all are very out of date. These things are everywhere in Victoria. I am on the far South-West Coast and we get them here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Willow Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I found a very strange spider in my yard one day and emailed the pics to the Museum of WA and one of the experts from the entomology department ID'd it and emailed me back....it might be worth doing something like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dxenion Posted September 18, 2012 Author Share Posted September 18, 2012 Is this a better photo of the front? The things I do for my dog's safety! :laugh: you're a trooper Dx! Still doesn't show the chelicerae but it looks like a Mygalomorph - I've decided to go with Jerojath: Hadronyche modesta http://biodiversitysnapshots.net.au/BDRS/public/speciesInfo.htm?spid=559&mode=fieldguide (click on the photo underneath the main pic) I am learning so much about spiders that I wish I never knew. You've no idea how much 'fun' I had trying to capture this on my phone but hopefully this is the chelicerae: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dxenion Posted September 18, 2012 Author Share Posted September 18, 2012 I found a very strange spider in my yard one day and emailed the pics to the Museum of WA and one of the experts from the entomology department ID'd it and emailed me back....it might be worth doing something like that? Good idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tintin Jac Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Um....where is that photo taken? Have you invited your new friend into your house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dxenion Posted September 18, 2012 Author Share Posted September 18, 2012 (edited) Um....where is that photo taken? Have you invited your new friend into your house For the last photo it was modelling on a piece of paper on the kitchen bench. That was the only place with enough light where I could get down lower than the bench to try and photograph the chelicerae. It's now residing in a hole punctured gladwrap covered jar in the kitchen until we work out what it is. If more photos are required to help identify it, I'd rather use the one I already have than have to go outside and dig up another one. Edited September 18, 2012 by Dxenion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 (edited) When we wanted a critter identified we got onto the WA museum so I would recommend you get onto the Vic one, they will get back to you quickly. Oh and they are great photos by the way - well done :D Edited September 18, 2012 by OSoSwift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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