Introducing Peaches & Beau

[Guest Panzer Attack!]

Put her on lead and teach them to go in the same spot. My Pap weighed 900 grams when he came off the plane in the middle of freezing cold weather, and still went outside. Put in the effort NOW as it will be a lot harder when she's older (as you're already discovering with your BYB). If you go out there with her you'll learn very quickly when she's most likely to go.

I have two dogs at home, one is a toy and one is 11kg. They both get treated like dogs.

[Florise]

It's as though you are hoping for something to go wrong so that you can repeat the old adage of "I told you so." In any case, you sound as though you haven't read my past experiences with breeders, breeders with a prefix. I purchased a siberian husky from health tested stock, she developed glaucoma at 3 years of age, I took her to an eye specialist, he supplied drops but made it clear that she would end up losing her sight, to cut a long story short.....she did end up blind and I had her eyes surgically removed to alleviate the pain that accompanies glaucoma; she is now 8 yo and a happy gal. I had purchased a cavalier king charles from a registered breeder with a PREFIX, pup died at around 4 mths of age from Mitral Valve Disease; a boxer died of cancer at a relatively young age (6 yo), my purebred golden retriever died of cancer at 5 years of age. I have purchased a chihuahua from a byb, she lived to the ripe old age of 18 years. Is it coincidence that I haven't had much luck with registered breeders? maybe. All in all, there are great reg. breeders and there are some not so great.

No I have not read all your previous threads, I do not have the time or inclination. As I said this thread is typical of all newbies who ask for advice and then ignore it, so why ask? Standard advice given out on this forum is to seek a dog from a registered breeder whose parents have been health tested for known diseases. Other standard advice includes seek out a breeder by word of mouth, who is reputable and will support buyers after the purchase of the pup. Did you do that? You take pot luck with any breeder if you do not research adequately. Your chances of issues are far reduced by opting to go with a reputable registered breeder who is aware of potential health issues in their lines and are working at/succeeding in eliminating them.

It's as though you are hoping for something to go wrong so that you can repeat the old adage of "I told you so."

Obviously we wish this for all buyers of BYB dogs. What an idiotic statement!

[Perfumed Lillium]

It's as though you are hoping for something to go wrong so that you can repeat the old adage of "I told you so." In any case, you sound as though you haven't read my past experiences with breeders, breeders with a prefix. I purchased a siberian husky from health tested stock, she developed glaucoma at 3 years of age, I took her to an eye specialist, he supplied drops but made it clear that she would end up losing her sight, to cut a long story short.....she did end up blind and I had her eyes surgically removed to alleviate the pain that accompanies glaucoma; she is now 8 yo and a happy gal. I had purchased a cavalier king charles from a registered breeder with a PREFIX, pup died at around 4 mths of age from Mitral Valve Disease; a boxer died of cancer at a relatively young age (6 yo), my purebred golden retriever died of cancer at 5 years of age. I have purchased a chihuahua from a byb, she lived to the ripe old age of 18 years. Is it coincidence that I haven't had much luck with registered breeders? maybe. All in all, there are great reg. breeders and there are some not so great.

No I have not read all your previous threads, I do not have the time or inclination. As I said this thread is typical of all newbies who ask for advice and then ignore it, so why ask? Standard advice given out on this forum is to seek a dog from a registered breeder whose parents have been health tested for known diseases. Other standard advice includes seek out a breeder by word of mouth, who is reputable and will support buyers after the purchase of the pup. Did you do that? You take pot luck with any breeder if you do not research adequately. Your chances of issues are far reduced by opting to go with a reputable registered breeder who is aware of potential health issues in their lines and are working at/succeeding in eliminating them.

It's as though you are hoping for something to go wrong so that you can repeat the old adage of "I told you so."

Obviously we wish this for all buyers of BYB dogs. What an idiotic statement!

"Obviously we wish this for all buyers of BYB dogs" WOW, you are a nice, caring person, wishing suffering on dogs from BYB situations . My dogs did come from registered stock anyway .... I suppose you missed that part as well

Seeking out a reputable breeder by word of mouth? how am I supposed to do that? Give Dogs Victoria a call, lol? It's easier said than done; What part of my post didn't you understand? I get that you're not expected to read each and every post but you've obviously read the post about my past experience with registered breeders, they health checked their breeding dogs.....hasn't worked to my advantage I'm sure there are some great breeders out there, no doubt, but word of mouth doesn't find its way to me.

Edited August 30, 2012 by Perfumed Lillium

[dogsaremyworld]

As for your original question - I would say that it looks like a fox face to me, but it is hard to tell at such a young age.

As for your Spitz boy. It does not make him any less a dog but it does not make him a purebred dog if the breeder did not have a prefix. He is not on the purebred register therefore he is not a purebred. I'm sorry but that's the truth, and I have seen you ask for advice on here before and then completely ignore it. I know you may of had bad experiences with registered breeder's before, and I have as well, but buying from an unregistered breeder, means that you have most likely bought from a byb. Just because his parents and grandparent's have papers does not matter. He is not a registered purebreed dog, no matter what you say, unless you have in your hand a piece of paper with an ANKC with your pup's name on it. Im sorry it sounds harsh but it's the truth.

Registered does not automatically mean reputable. There are other things you need to check for first, and in the case of your Cavalier, if you had asked the breeder for evidence of health testing for heart murmurs and MVD in the parent's you could of avoided that. Most reputable breeders check thier stock for heart disease, and can provide copies of certificates from specialists. A reputable breeder would also help you replace the dog you so tragically lost, or help you source one.

I hope nothing goes wrong with your Spitz pup. But you have bought from a byb'er so you have greatly heightened the risk of the dog not turning out in regards to size, temperament, and inherited diseases.

[dogsaremyworld]

It's as though you are hoping for something to go wrong so that you can repeat the old adage of "I told you so." In any case, you sound as though you haven't read my past experiences with breeders, breeders with a prefix. I purchased a siberian husky from health tested stock, she developed glaucoma at 3 years of age, I took her to an eye specialist, he supplied drops but made it clear that she would end up losing her sight, to cut a long story short.....she did end up blind and I had her eyes surgically removed to alleviate the pain that accompanies glaucoma; she is now 8 yo and a happy gal. I had purchased a cavalier king charles from a registered breeder with a PREFIX, pup died at around 4 mths of age from Mitral Valve Disease; a boxer died of cancer at a relatively young age (6 yo), my purebred golden retriever died of cancer at 5 years of age. I have purchased a chihuahua from a byb, she lived to the ripe old age of 18 years. Is it coincidence that I haven't had much luck with registered breeders? maybe. All in all, there are great reg. breeders and there are some not so great.

No I have not read all your previous threads, I do not have the time or inclination. As I said this thread is typical of all newbies who ask for advice and then ignore it, so why ask? Standard advice given out on this forum is to seek a dog from a registered breeder whose parents have been health tested for known diseases. Other standard advice includes seek out a breeder by word of mouth, who is reputable and will support buyers after the purchase of the pup. Did you do that? You take pot luck with any breeder if you do not research adequately. Your chances of issues are far reduced by opting to go with a reputable registered breeder who is aware of potential health issues in their lines and are working at/succeeding in eliminating them.

It's as though you are hoping for something to go wrong so that you can repeat the old adage of "I told you so."

Obviously we wish this for all buyers of BYB dogs. What an idiotic statement!

"Obviously we wish this for all buyers of BYB dogs" WOW, you are a nice, caring person, wishing suffering on dogs from BYB situations . My dogs did come from registered stock anyway .... I suppose you missed that part as well

Seeking out a reputable breeder by word of mouth? how am I supposed to do that? Give Dogs Victoria a call, lol? It's easier said than done; What part of my post didn't you understand? I get that you're not expected to read each and every post but you've obviously read the post about my past experience with registered breeders, they health checked their breeding dogs.....hasn't worked to my advantage I'm sure there are some great breeders out there, no doubt, but word of mouth doesn't find its way to me.

As for word of mouth - go to a showground when there is an All breeds show on. Approach the breeder's with dogs that are the same breed as the one you are looking for - ask them questions, ask them if they have pups, ask them if they know of any breeder's who do have dogs,etc, etc. Ring the puppy officer of the breed club you are looking for, and they can refer you to one of thier members. And yes, you can ring Dogs Vic, and ask them what breeder's advertise in thier gazette.

[Perfumed Lillium]

As for your original question - I would say that it looks like a fox face to me, but it is hard to tell at such a young age.

As for your Spitz boy. It does not make him any less a dog but it does not make him a purebred dog if the breeder did not have a prefix. He is not on the purebred register therefore he is not a purebred. I'm sorry but that's the truth, and I have seen you ask for advice on here before and then completely ignore it. I know you may of had bad experiences with registered breeder's before, and I have as well, but buying from an unregistered breeder, means that you have most likely bought from a byb. Just because his parents and grandparent's have papers does not matter. He is not a registered purebreed dog, no matter what you say, unless you have in your hand a piece of paper with an ANKC with your pup's name on it. Im sorry it sounds harsh but it's the truth.

Registered does not automatically mean reputable. There are other things you need to check for first, and in the case of your Cavalier, if you had asked the breeder for evidence of health testing for heart murmurs and MVD in the parent's you could of avoided that. Most reputable breeders check thier stock for heart disease, and can provide copies of certificates from specialists. A reputable breeder would also help you replace the dog you so tragically lost, or help you source one.

I hope nothing goes wrong with your Spitz pup. But you have bought from a byb'er so you have greatly heightened the risk of the dog not turning out in regards to size, temperament, and inherited diseases.

Asking advice and getting it has been appreciated, condemning me because I decided to go ahead with the pups borders on nastiness.

Regarding the Jap. Spitz.....I've seen his parents and grandparents therefore I have every idea of what he is going to turn out like in regards to size & TEMPERAMENT, his parents & grandparents have a beautiful nature, I went to see this breeder on 3 separate occasions and spent a considerable amount of time with all pups and the breeding stock, that was enough to see for myself. I have no doubt he is a PUREBRED Japanese Spitz, papers or not. Once again, how does one decipher a reputable registered breeder unless you know people that have purchased the breed you are wanting which, in my case, this doesn't apply.

[RubyStar]

He is not on the purebred register therefore he is not a purebred

Lack of papers doesn't deem a dog not a purebred. What it does mean is the dog is not pedigree purebred, and yes without papers you can't PROVE it, but what a load of rubbish about lack of papers means not a purebred.

I don't condone buying from BYB's, but my rescue Lab sure is hell a PUREBRED, even without papers.

[Perfumed Lillium]

It's as though you are hoping for something to go wrong so that you can repeat the old adage of "I told you so." In any case, you sound as though you haven't read my past experiences with breeders, breeders with a prefix. I purchased a siberian husky from health tested stock, she developed glaucoma at 3 years of age, I took her to an eye specialist, he supplied drops but made it clear that she would end up losing her sight, to cut a long story short.....she did end up blind and I had her eyes surgically removed to alleviate the pain that accompanies glaucoma; she is now 8 yo and a happy gal. I had purchased a cavalier king charles from a registered breeder with a PREFIX, pup died at around 4 mths of age from Mitral Valve Disease; a boxer died of cancer at a relatively young age (6 yo), my purebred golden retriever died of cancer at 5 years of age. I have purchased a chihuahua from a byb, she lived to the ripe old age of 18 years. Is it coincidence that I haven't had much luck with registered breeders? maybe. All in all, there are great reg. breeders and there are some not so great.

No I have not read all your previous threads, I do not have the time or inclination. As I said this thread is typical of all newbies who ask for advice and then ignore it, so why ask? Standard advice given out on this forum is to seek a dog from a registered breeder whose parents have been health tested for known diseases. Other standard advice includes seek out a breeder by word of mouth, who is reputable and will support buyers after the purchase of the pup. Did you do that? You take pot luck with any breeder if you do not research adequately. Your chances of issues are far reduced by opting to go with a reputable registered breeder who is aware of potential health issues in their lines and are working at/succeeding in eliminating them.

It's as though you are hoping for something to go wrong so that you can repeat the old adage of "I told you so."

Obviously we wish this for all buyers of BYB dogs. What an idiotic statement!

"Obviously we wish this for all buyers of BYB dogs" WOW, you are a nice, caring person, wishing suffering on dogs from BYB situations . My dogs did come from registered stock anyway .... I suppose you missed that part as well

Seeking out a reputable breeder by word of mouth? how am I supposed to do that? Give Dogs Victoria a call, lol? It's easier said than done; What part of my post didn't you understand? I get that you're not expected to read each and every post but you've obviously read the post about my past experience with registered breeders, they health checked their breeding dogs.....hasn't worked to my advantage I'm sure there are some great breeders out there, no doubt, but word of mouth doesn't find its way to me.

As for word of mouth - go to a showground when there is an All breeds show on. Approach the breeder's with dogs that are the same breed as the one you are looking for - ask them questions, ask them if they have pups, ask them if they know of any breeder's who do have dogs,etc, etc. Ring the puppy officer of the breed club you are looking for, and they can refer you to one of thier members. And yes, you can ring Dogs Vic, and ask them what breeder's advertise in thier gazette.

I adopted this approach when it came to the purchase of my siberian husky (which is now blind) golden retriever and my cavalier. I rang the club pertaining to these breeds and was provided with some phone numbers, that is how I went about obtaining them.

[W Sibs]

After what you have been through with all your dogs, I would think that health will be very important to you. Temperament is just as important too :)

[Guest lavendergirl]

As for your original question - I would say that it looks like a fox face to me, but it is hard to tell at such a young age.

As for your Spitz boy. It does not make him any less a dog but it does not make him a purebred dog if the breeder did not have a prefix. He is not on the purebred register therefore he is not a purebred. I'm sorry but that's the truth, and I have seen you ask for advice on here before and then completely ignore it. I know you may of had bad experiences with registered breeder's before, and I have as well, but buying from an unregistered breeder, means that you have most likely bought from a byb. Just because his parents and grandparent's have papers does not matter. He is not a registered purebreed dog, no matter what you say, unless you have in your hand a piece of paper with an ANKC with your pup's name on it. Im sorry it sounds harsh but it's the truth.

Registered does not automatically mean reputable. There are other things you need to check for first, and in the case of your Cavalier, if you had asked the breeder for evidence of health testing for heart murmurs and MVD in the parent's you could of avoided that. Most reputable breeders check thier stock for heart disease, and can provide copies of certificates from specialists. A reputable breeder would also help you replace the dog you so tragically lost, or help you source one.

I hope nothing goes wrong with your Spitz pup. But you have bought from a byb'er so you have greatly heightened the risk of the dog not turning out in regards to size, temperament, and inherited diseases.

Is that correct? I always thought that you could describe a dog without papers as purebred if the dog was without any other mix - whereas a dog with papers would be described as "pedigree". So you are saying that only dogs from registered breeders are entitled to be described as "purebred" is that right?

[Guest lavendergirl]

As for your original question - I would say that it looks like a fox face to me, but it is hard to tell at such a young age.

As for your Spitz boy. It does not make him any less a dog but it does not make him a purebred dog if the breeder did not have a prefix. He is not on the purebred register therefore he is not a purebred. I'm sorry but that's the truth, and I have seen you ask for advice on here before and then completely ignore it. I know you may of had bad experiences with registered breeder's before, and I have as well, but buying from an unregistered breeder, means that you have most likely bought from a byb. Just because his parents and grandparent's have papers does not matter. He is not a registered purebreed dog, no matter what you say, unless you have in your hand a piece of paper with an ANKC with your pup's name on it. Im sorry it sounds harsh but it's the truth.

Registered does not automatically mean reputable. There are other things you need to check for first, and in the case of your Cavalier, if you had asked the breeder for evidence of health testing for heart murmurs and MVD in the parent's you could of avoided that. Most reputable breeders check thier stock for heart disease, and can provide copies of certificates from specialists. A reputable breeder would also help you replace the dog you so tragically lost, or help you source one.

I hope nothing goes wrong with your Spitz pup. But you have bought from a byb'er so you have greatly heightened the risk of the dog not turning out in regards to size, temperament, and inherited diseases.

Asking advice and getting it has been appreciated, condemning me because I decided to go ahead with the pups borders on nastiness.

Regarding the Jap. Spitz.....I've seen his parents and grandparents therefore I have every idea of what he is going to turn out like in regards to size & TEMPERAMENT, his parents & grandparents have a beautiful nature, I went to see this breeder on 3 separate occasions and spent a considerable amount of time with all pups and the breeding stock, that was enough to see for myself. I have no doubt he is a PUREBRED Japanese Spitz, papers or not. Once again, how does one decipher a reputable registered breeder unless you know people that have purchased the breed you are wanting which, in my case, this doesn't apply.

PL both your dogs are gorgeous - don't let any of this nonsense effect your enjoyment of them one little bit.

[RubyStar]

As for your original question - I would say that it looks like a fox face to me, but it is hard to tell at such a young age.

As for your Spitz boy. It does not make him any less a dog but it does not make him a purebred dog if the breeder did not have a prefix. He is not on the purebred register therefore he is not a purebred. I'm sorry but that's the truth, and I have seen you ask for advice on here before and then completely ignore it. I know you may of had bad experiences with registered breeder's before, and I have as well, but buying from an unregistered breeder, means that you have most likely bought from a byb. Just because his parents and grandparent's have papers does not matter. He is not a registered purebreed dog, no matter what you say, unless you have in your hand a piece of paper with an ANKC with your pup's name on it. Im sorry it sounds harsh but it's the truth.

Registered does not automatically mean reputable. There are other things you need to check for first, and in the case of your Cavalier, if you had asked the breeder for evidence of health testing for heart murmurs and MVD in the parent's you could of avoided that. Most reputable breeders check thier stock for heart disease, and can provide copies of certificates from specialists. A reputable breeder would also help you replace the dog you so tragically lost, or help you source one.

I hope nothing goes wrong with your Spitz pup. But you have bought from a byb'er so you have greatly heightened the risk of the dog not turning out in regards to size, temperament, and inherited diseases.

Is that correct? I always thought that you could describe a dog without papers as purebred if the dog was without any other mix - whereas a dog with papers would be described as "pedigree". So you are saying that only dogs from registered breeders are entitled to be described as "purebred" is that right?

Agreed lavendargirl. I don't agree with 'dogsaremyworld' interpretation of a purebred.

[minimax]

I am training the pom pup (Peaches) to do her business on newspaper laid out on the floor (where else lol)

outside? :) I presume the spitz is being taught to go outside? a little dog toilet, made using fake turf ..so that texture will be a part trigger for when she's out on grass ..rather than maybe a magazine on a couch, or newspaper on a carpet :p

Toilet training is a full time job ..tiny little bladders, and no chance of 'holding on' for months ...

They both look cute - thanks for the photos .

How old is the spitz boy? He looks tall for a puppy ...

I was about to ask the same thing.

Are you sure he's a pure JS?

He looks normal for a JS puppy at that age, they go all leggy. Plus depending on the lines he comes from will dictate how big he will be. If his parents are from the older stock he might be larger than 37cm. Pictures are decieving when it comes to their size.

The only reason I asked is from previous posts I got the impression the dog was younger and he's from a BYB and we all know how these things go sometimes.

I am very aware of how leggy and strange some puppies look at this age.

I've just come back from overseas, so am re-joining this saga. Interesting that this JS BYB'er just had a 5 month old pup laying around ready for someone to take home that day! Must have been the pick of the litter. All the other posts made it sound much younger. Wonder if the Pom breeder knew her teeny baby, who is too small to go out in the rain, was being sent to live with a 5 month old JS, and not an 8 week old?

[dogsaremyworld]

I think this will be the last time I post on this topic.

It is just making me extremely frustrated and almost angry to read.

There are a couple of things the beggars belief;

If you are so annoyed and p'od by the registered community, why did you get your pom from a registered breeder, but not your Spitz boy?

What colour were the papers of the parents and grandparents of the Spitz pup? I bet they weren't all blue. Which means that some person has taken someone else's lines and bred with them, probably against the wishes of the breeder. If they were blue, no breeder would want pup's bred outside the system, which again means the person who bred the pup, has taken someone else's lines, and is breeding probably without consent.

What possible reason would a person have to breed two purebred parents, with main registration, without having a prefix? Other than money.

Having them 'purebred' means they can charge just that bit more.

You are teaching, and encouraging a dog to go to the toilet inside. It doesn't matter what size the puddles are. Once the Jap Spitz boy gets a wiff of that, he'll be doing it inside too. Especially when he starts maturing, particularly if he is not desexed.

The Cavalier who died of MVD at 4 months. That is extremely young to die of a degenerative disease. Which probaly means that the pup had a fairly severe heart murmur from birth. The first things vet's check in Cavaliers, and other toy dogs, is thier heart. How was this missed? Or did the pup not have a vet check at 8 weeks? Also if both parent's are clear of MVD and a heart murmur, it means the pup cannot get one. Which means that the breeder didn't do health testing. Did you ask to see both parent's heart clear certificates?

If you cannot provide papers for your pup, it means they are not purebred dogs. Yes, the parent's and grandparents may be look, act and feel like purebred dogs, but without papers showing a lineage you cannot be sure that the great grandmother wasn't a cocker spaniel, or a samoyed, or a mutt for that chance. I know it sounds cruel but it's the hard truth.

You were on here recently asking for advice, and have ignored it. Which, by sounds of it, is not your fault. You have been taken for a ride by a byb'er who has convinced you that you are buying a purebred dog, most likely charging full pedigree prices, when all you really have is an undocumented dog that sure looks a hell of a lot like a Jap Spitz. And that is the most frustrating part. It's not your fault. It is the dodgy people out there who play with the truth, charge heaps of money for mutts, but spin it to sound like they are selling you pedigree dogs. It's wrong. They have bought a dog off a registered breeder, or two, and then bred them outside the registry, which I can tell you right now, no registered breeder would want that to happen to thier stock. So this person has taken advantage of you and the breeder they originally purchased the dog off. And comes off with close to $1000 per dog. Its wrong.

[dogsaremyworld]

I am training the pom pup (Peaches) to do her business on newspaper laid out on the floor (where else lol)

outside? :) I presume the spitz is being taught to go outside? a little dog toilet, made using fake turf ..so that texture will be a part trigger for when she's out on grass ..rather than maybe a magazine on a couch, or newspaper on a carpet :p

Toilet training is a full time job ..tiny little bladders, and no chance of 'holding on' for months ...

They both look cute - thanks for the photos .

How old is the spitz boy? He looks tall for a puppy ...

I was about to ask the same thing.

Are you sure he's a pure JS?

He looks normal for a JS puppy at that age, they go all leggy. Plus depending on the lines he comes from will dictate how big he will be. If his parents are from the older stock he might be larger than 37cm. Pictures are decieving when it comes to their size.

The only reason I asked is from previous posts I got the impression the dog was younger and he's from a BYB and we all know how these things go sometimes.

I am very aware of how leggy and strange some puppies look at this age.

I've just come back from overseas, so am re-joining this saga. Interesting that this JS BYB'er just had a 5 month old pup laying around ready for someone to take home that day! Must have been the pick of the litter. All the other posts made it sound much younger. Wonder if the Pom breeder knew her teeny baby, who is too small to go out in the rain, was being sent to live with a 5 month old JS, and not an 8 week old?

Interesting.....

[megan_]

I have asked for advice on DOL before. Some of it I have followed and some of it I have rejected. There is no rule that you have to take on board every bit of advice from internet randoms.

The dog is most likely a JS. She has the dogs now, why can't you let it go? She needs to focus on giving the dog the best life possible. She's made it hard on herself by getting two puppies (that is my biggest concern), but she's got to step up and make it work.

[Guest lavendergirl]

As for your original question - I would say that it looks like a fox face to me, but it is hard to tell at such a young age.

As for your Spitz boy. It does not make him any less a dog but it does not make him a purebred dog if the breeder did not have a prefix. He is not on the purebred register therefore he is not a purebred. I'm sorry but that's the truth, and I have seen you ask for advice on here before and then completely ignore it. I know you may of had bad experiences with registered breeder's before, and I have as well, but buying from an unregistered breeder, means that you have most likely bought from a byb. Just because his parents and grandparent's have papers does not matter. He is not a registered purebreed dog, no matter what you say, unless you have in your hand a piece of paper with an ANKC with your pup's name on it. Im sorry it sounds harsh but it's the truth.

Registered does not automatically mean reputable. There are other things you need to check for first, and in the case of your Cavalier, if you had asked the breeder for evidence of health testing for heart murmurs and MVD in the parent's you could of avoided that. Most reputable breeders check thier stock for heart disease, and can provide copies of certificates from specialists. A reputable breeder would also help you replace the dog you so tragically lost, or help you source one.

I hope nothing goes wrong with your Spitz pup. But you have bought from a byb'er so you have greatly heightened the risk of the dog not turning out in regards to size, temperament, and inherited diseases.

Is that correct? I always thought that you could describe a dog without papers as purebred if the dog was without any other mix - whereas a dog with papers would be described as "pedigree". So you are saying that only dogs from registered breeders are entitled to be described as "purebred" is that right?

Agreed lavendargirl. I don't agree with 'dogsaremyworld' interpretation of a purebred.

Is there an "official" interpretation anywhere - would be really interested to know. Anyone know?

[mixeduppup]

From what I understand, Purebred is a dog of a definite breed that fits a certain type. Pedigreed is a breed of dog with bloodlines and paperwork to back it up. That's my understanding anyway

[minimax]

Is there an "official" interpretation anywhere - would be really interested to know. Anyone know?

In the purebred dog world, if you say "purebred" it's taken to mean "purebred/registered/with papers".

Without papers, you can't prove your dog is purebred, anything could have snuck in back there.

Edited August 30, 2012 by minimax

[whitka]

There is someone around town who breeds purebred dogs but doesnt have a prefix but they health test all there dogs. There dogs are from registered parents these people dont show but from what I know about them the dogs are just loved pets. I would never support just breeding there pets but they seem to be doing the right thing by health testing.

There really is no point in attacking the op. Whats done is done.