BlaznHotAussies Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Pretty sure the phenylbutazone is a pain killer (bute)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirawee Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Phenylbutazone is an anti-inflammatory so it has the added effect of being a pain killer. I have never known it to be prescribed to dogs though only horses! For dosage call your vet if it isn't written on the label. Poor little man Hopefully he is better soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Glad you found a reason ..but sorry he is uncomfortable . 'BUTE' is an old NSAID .. as said..it is used for horses a lot .. but not all that often in dogs , AFAIK. make sure you give it with food .. it may irritate the stomach ..like aspirin does with us ... he might also appreciate a warm wheatbag on the sore bits :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luffy4688 Posted August 20, 2012 Author Share Posted August 20, 2012 I'm feeling slightly depressed seeing him this way at the moment to be honest. He's condition seems to have regressed a little. After seeing the vet, he could still walk slowly with a limp, but now, he seems to be back to taking 2 steps, and just sitting down and giving up. I guess, it's the frustration of not really knowing what to do to make it better, and him not being able to tell me exactly where he is hurting that is driving me nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 keep him warm ..let him decide where he's most comfortable ... and obviously, if he's worse overnight, or in the morning .. contact a vet . he will have 'cooled down ' from the activity/chiro earlier.. and he will be sore. if you have ever had a decent cramp..or a pulled muscle .. you know it HURTS to move ..and sometimes my cramped muscles take a couple of days to recover . Do you have any rescue remedy? That will help relax him ...and you :p .. as will lavender incense/oil burner/drops sprinkled near where he/you are sitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizT Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I wonder whether he dislocated a joint (hip or maybe knee) or pulled a tendon or something? Poor fellow. Sending healing vibes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luffy4688 Posted August 21, 2012 Author Share Posted August 21, 2012 Updates. Bailey's condition deteriorated badly last night. He couldn't stand on his hind legs nor walk. We're just back from the emergency vet, and the initial prognosis is not good. Basically, the pain seems to be on his back. The vet thinks that the cartilage discs are pressing onto his spinal cord, affecting his nerves hence why now he has lost control over his hind legs, though he said it's a positive that he could still feel pain in his legs. He's due for an xray later today. At the moment we're pretty overwhelmed as everything happened so quickly. Just 2 days ago we had a perfectly walking dog. Not to mention the quotes being given are pretty expensive. At the end of the day, we just want to get down to the root asap so hopefully Bailey could begin his recovery soon. Its eating at me seeing him like this atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luffy4688 Posted August 21, 2012 Author Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) Double post. Edited August 21, 2012 by luffy4688 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmolo Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Oh no, not Bailey we have fingers and paws crossed for you here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Oh that is no good. Poor Bailey. I hope the vets work out what is wrong soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziah Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Updates. Bailey's condition deteriorated badly last night. He couldn't stand on his hind legs nor walk. We're just back from the emergency vet, and the initial prognosis is not good. Basically, the pain seems to be on his back. The vet thinks that the cartilage discs are pressing onto his spinal cord, affecting his nerves hence why now he has lost control over his hind legs, though he said it's a positive that he could still feel pain in his legs. He's due for an xray later today. At the moment we're pretty overwhelmed as everything happened so quickly. Just 2 days ago we had a perfectly walking dog. Not to mention the quotes being given are pretty expensive. At the end of the day, we just want to get down to the root asap so hopefully Bailey could begin his recovery soon. Its eating at me seeing him like this atm. Here's hoping the x-ray answers some questions and treatment can then begin. Good thoughts for you both :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smisch Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 *hugs* to bailey!! Hope he's doing better!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy82 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) I know the theory is that you are re-enforcing the fear but I wonder whether that is really valid. A prominent vet behaviourist here describes that theory as "nonsense" and believes that offering the dog "calming signals" is more effective. I disagree with the idea of "reinforcing fear". Fear isn't operant, and can't be punished or reinforced. If that was the case, you should be able to punish a scared dog and the dog would stop being scared. So if that doesn't work (which it doesn't) then it doesn't make any more sense to give a scared dog a treat resulting in the dog getting more scared. I think it's fine to pat and reassure a scared dog. You can reinforce fear, all you're doing is making a scary situation a little less scary. But of course, there is reassuring, and there is mollycoddling and fussing and making it a big deal. Edit: Just read about the vet visit, sorry to hear he's not feeling well. Hope he gets better soon. Edited August 21, 2012 by fuzzy82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luffy4688 Posted August 21, 2012 Author Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) Things are progressing fast on my end. Short update. The X-ray's been done. And it's been identified a couple of the discs have what the vet termed as 'calsifed'. He's about to undergo a Mylogram to determine which disc in particular is pressing into the spinal cord. At the moment, surgery seems to be the way forward. Thank you for all the support and positive vibes so far. It's made the experience all the more less frightening. Edited August 21, 2012 by luffy4688 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziah Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Things are progressing fast on my end. Short update. The X-ray's been done. And it's been identified a couple of the discs have what the vet termed as 'calsifed'. He's about to undergo a Mylogram to determine which disc in particular is pressing into the spinal cord. At the moment, surgery seems to be the way forward. Thank you for all the support and positive vibes so far. It's made the experience all the more less frightening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Fingers crossed for a quick, successful surgery, I hope Bailey is feeling better soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lavendergirl Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 So the poor boy was in pain all along? Hope this can be treated promptly and he is on the road to recovery soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobbly Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Poor boy. Hope he is better ASAP. Give him get well belly scratches and chin scratches and ear scratches and a chest scratch from me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Ouch poor Bailey . I hope that soon he will be not having that horrible pain. I'm sure there are DOLER's who can empathise .... and, if it makes you feel any better ..years ago my brother got to the stage of not being able to feel/use one leg ..or lie down. or sit ..before HE would see a specialist..and he was, of course operated upon immediately ..with V good results. Sending healing thoughts to poor Bailey . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I was going to ask about whether there was something in his crate as well. Has he settled down this morning? I find it interesting that often people are reluctant to reassure and comfort a frightened dog in a calm manner - not specifically your situation luffy but just generally. I know the theory is that you are re-enforcing the fear but I wonder whether that is really valid. A prominent vet behaviourist here describes that theory as "nonsense" and believes that offering the dog "calming signals" is more effective. A Victorian Vet Behaviourist has said the same in a lecture recently too. Reason is that fear/anxiety is an emotional response and you are not going to reinforce or increase it by comforting the dog as it just 'is'. Makes sense, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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