grommit Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 We are getting a new puppy and have been told we can pick him up anytime from 6 weeks old as they've been weaned - is this ok?? Puppy will be coming home to a mature dog - will this help him?? Have researched a bit on the internet and (as always) there is conflicting advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimax Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Noooo it's too young :/ What breed? Most states have a law that says puppies need to be 8 weeks old to be sold, so I'm presuming QLD does. Is this from a registered breeder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest donatella Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 (edited) If its a toy breed beware, 6 weeks old is very very young to be away from its mother if not very dangerous! In anycase 6 weeks is too young but if you are getting a toy breed please do not take it at 6 weeks. Edited August 15, 2012 by donatella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjelkier Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 6 weeks is too young for any breed not just toys. Is the breeder registered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 8 weeks is the recommended age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dxenion Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 (edited) Too young. The pup goes through an important development period in this time, learning social skills from the dam and littermates. Although 8 weeks is the usual minimum age, 10-12 weeks would be better from a developmental point of view. I am less than impressed (trying to be polite here) with backyard or oops breeders that get rid of the pups at 5-6 weeks just because they're now weaned. Bad owner, bad bad owner! Edited August 15, 2012 by Dxenion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grommit Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 Puppy is coming from registered breeder but sounds like they are new to it all - pup is a staffy. They have not said we have to take him but they gave us the option- I didn't think it sounded right - thought they may have said that because we have an older staffy at home. Will leave him with mum & hopefully there will be other puppies left for him to socialise with :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 AFAIK the legal age to sell a puppy is 8 weeks? Unfortunately, it seems you have struck an unscrupulous 'breeder'. ...do you have a promise of support once pup is home? Do they give you lots of info on diet /care? anytime from 6 weeks old as they've been weaned - uh, huh. weaning is a gradual process ..and at 6 weeks, puppies NEED their mother /littermates around , so they learn lots . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Is pup a blue staffy? there are 'new' breeders to cash in on this popular colour. What replies did you get when you asked about the parents' health test results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megan_ Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Sorry but I'd give this breeder a miss. In some states all a breeder needs to do is pay a fee and have a main registered dog to be a "registered breeder". It doesn't mean that they are ethical or know what they're doing. Dodgy breeders like to ship them off young to save them 2 weeks of cost and the cost of vaccs, worming etc. There are plenty of fantastic stafford breeders around, there is no reason to settle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 sounds like they are new to it all perhaps do an internet search of their prefix/name/kennel ..and see what else they've done? You can also probably do a search of the pups grandparents etc (ask the breeder for their names)..see if any have been winners in shows, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grommit Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 Both parents are clear of L2-HGA /HC and we are getting a puppy pack & full papers with the little guy - plus microchipping and all vacs as per usual. I don't think the breeder is dodgy per see just maybe naive or mis-informed. Am happy to continue on, we'll just leave him with his mum longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grommit Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 sounds like they are new to it all perhaps do an internet search of their prefix/name/kennel ..and see what else they've done? You can also probably do a search of the pups grandparents etc (ask the breeder for their names)..see if any have been winners in shows, etc. Yeah we have checked them out and it's a meeting of 2 kennels - both kennels seem to check out and the kennel the sire is from seems to be established. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkyTansy Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 fairly sure it's in the COE that registered breeders shouldn't sell pups before 8 weeks. Maybe you should remind them of that. it's pretty common knowledge that pups shouldn't go before 8 weeks. I'd be questioning how much they know at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfumed Lillium Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 You would expect that anyone undertaking breeding of any animal would be better informed instead of taking a stab in the dark. As everyone has said, 6 weeks is ridiculously young to sell a pup and speaks volumes of the breeder, just my honest opinion. Good luck and I hope all works out great for you. Looking forwards to seeing photos in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheena Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Have a look at this thread re: staffy puppy posted just recently. Lots of good advice there. 6 weeks is way too young to leave it's litter mates. Staffies can have a lot of problems so make sure you get a contract of sale & a receipt & a guarantee that the breeder will take the pup back if you have health problems with it in the future & if it is a Blue Staffy, then be doubly aware. But just read THIS THREAD & it will save DOL's a lot of repeating of advice given to this person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Too young, much too young. The fact that this "breeder" would even suggest it proves a) they care nothing for the welfare of their puppies b) they don't know anything about caring for puppies and c) they refuse to follow the COE. Can you give me any reason why you want to give your money and risk your heart with such people? Choose another breeder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allerzeit Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 (edited) The ANKC Code of Ethics states: A member shall not, within Australia, sell or otherwise transfer from that member’s care any puppy under eight [8] weeks of age without the approval of the member’s Member Body. Do they have approval from their state canine association to sell the puppy under 8 weeks of age? If not, they are in breach of the COE, and if that's the case, you need to consider - if they are willing to ignore that part of the COE, what other parts of the COE are they also happy to ignore? Unethical registered breeders are a disgrace and should be reported, not encouraged. Edited August 15, 2012 by Allerzeit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizT Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 (edited) Don't registered Breeders also have to do an Open Book Exam in QLD? This is very basic information that ALL registered breeders SHOULD know. It's not just about whether the pup is ready to leave or isn't it's also about legislation and code of conduct for Registered Breeders. There are many schools of thought about when a Puppy is ready to leave...with so much different ideology on this a Guide has to be set out and followed. Edited August 15, 2012 by LizT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheena Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 (edited) sounds like they are new to it all perhaps do an internet search of their prefix/name/kennel ..and see what else they've done? You can also probably do a search of the pups grandparents etc (ask the breeder for their names)..see if any have been winners in shows, etc. Yeah we have checked them out and it's a meeting of 2 kennels - both kennels seem to check out and the kennel the sire is from seems to be established. This could also mean they are a puppy farmer What do you mean by "established"...do you mean turning out lots of puppies for money or are they just breeding for the betterment of their breed & show their dogs & have titles to prove it. What colour are both the parents???? Edited August 15, 2012 by sheena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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