Salukifan Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 One more thing - if you asked me if it were possible that there are ethical non-ANKC registered breeders, breeding companion animals, then my answer would be a resounding "yes". But they appear, from what I can gather, to be as rare as rocking horse poo. And how Jo Average is going to find one, I simply do not know. Handwritten cardboard sign attached to a light pole saying 'staffie pups 4 sale'? That's "English Staffie" please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 You can't even buy any decent quality brush in their stores. It's all shit. How do you know???? :eek: It is part of DOL membership that one is NOT to even go inside a PP. One is allowed to yell abuse from outside of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 One more thing - if you asked me if it were possible that there are ethical non-ANKC registered breeders, breeding companion animals, then my answer would be a resounding "yes". But they appear, from what I can gather, to be as rare as rocking horse poo. And how Jo Average is going to find one, I simply do not know. Handwritten cardboard sign attached to a light pole saying 'staffie pups 4 sale'? That's "English Staffie" please. Blue English staffie.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 (edited) You can't even buy any decent quality brush in their stores. It's all shit. How do you know???? :eek: It is part of DOL membership that one is NOT to even go inside a PP. One is allowed to yell abuse from outside of course. I couldn't give a toss what popular DOLthink says I can and cannot do. I've been into PP stores albeit not recently. I just don't buy anything there. That's for two reasons: * I ain't going to support a business that supports puppy farms * They sell largely shit products ( as do Petbarn and Petstock). Thank God for show vans and the internet. In case anyone was considering buying them, Gripsoft slickers suck. I bought one before I knew better. Edited August 3, 2012 by Haredown Whippets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbi Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 One more thing - if you asked me if it were possible that there are ethical non-ANKC registered breeders, breeding companion animals, then my answer would be a resounding "yes". But they appear, from what I can gather, to be as rare as rocking horse poo. And how Jo Average is going to find one, I simply do not know. Handwritten cardboard sign attached to a light pole saying 'staffie pups 4 sale'? That's "English Staffie" please. Blue English staffie.... "Rare" Blue English Staffy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 You can't even buy any decent quality brush in their stores. It's all shit. How do you know???? :eek: It is part of DOL membership that one is NOT to even go inside a PP. One is allowed to yell abuse from outside of course. That's 'educate people'. One more thing - if you asked me if it were possible that there are ethical non-ANKC registered breeders, breeding companion animals, then my answer would be a resounding "yes". But they appear, from what I can gather, to be as rare as rocking horse poo. And how Jo Average is going to find one, I simply do not know. Handwritten cardboard sign attached to a light pole saying 'staffie pups 4 sale'? That's "English Staffie" please. Blue English staffie.... Real sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenGirl85 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 One more thing - if you asked me if it were possible that there are ethical non-ANKC registered breeders, breeding companion animals, then my answer would be a resounding "yes". But they appear, from what I can gather, to be as rare as rocking horse poo. And how Jo Average is going to find one, I simply do not know. Handwritten cardboard sign attached to a light pole saying 'staffie pups 4 sale'? That's "English Staffie" please. Blue English staffie.... "Rare" Blue English Staffy! First check if they have 5 moles on their face, that's how you tell they're pure you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty&biscuit Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Just thought I'dd add my bit here, I work in a petshop and am well informed on breeds we get in, and the manager makes sure other staff are as well. In saying that, we only take in small breeds, and there is a 3 day cooling off period for puppy buyers. We do not buy from puppy farmers, just the odd 'oops' litter it seems, and only have in one litter about once a year. In saying this though, I would much rather that puppies were not sold in pet shops, as there are 'bad' ones out there, and there are ethical breeders who do so much hard work to improve breeds. I really believe though, that desexing, or even health testing of parents should be mandatory. All too often people buy a pup from the paper, it grows, and they decid to breed it because "it's cute". The cycle then continues. I have managed to convince many people to desex and not breed from their pets (thank god!). Please exuse this as it is written very messy, basically just whatever comes to the top of my head :p I wish there was a simple solution but that's just not the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosmum Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 One more thing - if you asked me if it were possible that there are ethical non-ANKC registered breeders, breeding companion animals, then my answer would be a resounding "yes". But they appear, from what I can gather, to be as rare as rocking horse poo. And how Jo Average is going to find one, I simply do not know. Handwritten cardboard sign attached to a light pole saying 'staffie pups 4 sale'? :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Just thought I'dd add my bit here, I work in a petshop and am well informed on breeds we get in, and the manager makes sure other staff are as well. In saying that, we only take in small breeds, and there is a 3 day cooling off period for puppy buyers. We do not buy from puppy farmers, just the odd 'oops' litter it seems, and only have in one litter about once a year. In saying this though, I would much rather that puppies were not sold in pet shops, as there are 'bad' ones out there, and there are ethical breeders who do so much hard work to improve breeds. I really believe though, that desexing, or even health testing of parents should be mandatory. All too often people buy a pup from the paper, it grows, and they decid to breed it because "it's cute". The cycle then continues. I have managed to convince many people to desex and not breed from their pets (thank god!). Please exuse this as it is written very messy, basically just whatever comes to the top of my head :p I wish there was a simple solution but that's just not the case Just the odd "oops" litter, it seems ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Just thought I'dd add my bit here, I work in a petshop and am well informed on breeds we get in, and the manager makes sure other staff are as well. In saying that, we only take in small breeds, and there is a 3 day cooling off period for puppy buyers. We do not buy from puppy farmers, just the odd 'oops' litter it seems, and only have in one litter about once a year. In saying this though, I would much rather that puppies were not sold in pet shops, as there are 'bad' ones out there, and there are ethical breeders who do so much hard work to improve breeds. I really believe though, that desexing, or even health testing of parents should be mandatory. All too often people buy a pup from the paper, it grows, and they decid to breed it because "it's cute". The cycle then continues. I have managed to convince many people to desex and not breed from their pets (thank god!). Please exuse this as it is written very messy, basically just whatever comes to the top of my head :p I wish there was a simple solution but that's just not the case Just the odd "oops" litter, it seems ... The parents live on a farm so it is ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Just thought I'dd add my bit here, I work in a petshop and am well informed on breeds we get in, and the manager makes sure other staff are as well. In saying that, we only take in small breeds, and there is a 3 day cooling off period for puppy buyers. We do not buy from puppy farmers, just the odd 'oops' litter it seems, and only have in one litter about once a year. In saying this though, I would much rather that puppies were not sold in pet shops, as there are 'bad' ones out there, and there are ethical breeders who do so much hard work to improve breeds. I really believe though, that desexing, or even health testing of parents should be mandatory. All too often people buy a pup from the paper, it grows, and they decid to breed it because "it's cute". The cycle then continues. I have managed to convince many people to desex and not breed from their pets (thank god!). Please exuse this as it is written very messy, basically just whatever comes to the top of my head :p I wish there was a simple solution but that's just not the case Just the odd "oops" litter, it seems ... The parents live on a farm so it is ok. Probably the same farm where children's pets go to live, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieDog Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Walked past Chadstone PP last night - they are still doing a roaring trade. Must have been 30-40 puppies in there. The shop was FULL of people too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 (edited) Poor bloody dogs. But hey, it's okay cos they don't get puppies from dog farms, just from the occasional 'oops' litter. Edited August 3, 2012 by Sheridan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty&biscuit Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Poor bloody dogs. But hey, it's okay cos they don't get puppies from dog farms, just from the occasional 'oops' litter. Haha sorry it sounded that way, no I don't think it is ok at all. I was merely stating that that not ALL pet shops keep 'stocked up' on puppy farm puppies. I would love it if the government banned the sale of puppies from pet shops. I hate having puppies in at my work because of all the naivity of people I have to deal with. I always point people to rescue or registered breeders, and whenever I state registered breeders and try to explain how good they are, people always say "oh but they are so expensive"...no matter what I say Any pointers on getting the message across, please? :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty&biscuit Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Is it sorks that was posting earlier saying that not all pet shops are evil? Because the point I was trying to get across was that no, they are not all evil, and some pups are treated a lot better than money making machines and have informed staff...however it is still not right as this cycle continues of not desexing the dog because the puppies will be cute and it's a great experience for the kids, when in reality there are so many poor things waiting in shelters to be rescued, and so many breeders who really put the hard yards into their pups. Despite working in a pet shop, I never reccommend anyone purchase pups from petstores or the paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Panzer Attack! Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Walked past Chadstone PP last night - they are still doing a roaring trade. Must have been 30-40 puppies in there. The shop was FULL of people too. I am not 100% sure because I never buy anything from PP, just check on the Pap x pups they seem to have a never ending supply of , but I dunnae how many people actually drop cash in there. Most people seem to be like me, walk in, say "oh how sad" or "awww" or whatever and then leave. Some of the pups have been there for over 2 months now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greytmate Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 All pet shops are inherently bad. A glass enclosure is an inappropriate environment for healthy mental and physical development of pups. The pups should be given space to exercise and learn clean habits, socialised with care and given the opportunity for quiet undisturbed sleep. These things cannot happen in a retail environment which was designed for the purpose of displaying and selling inanimate goods to crowds of strangers during retail trading hours. If a person make a decision to keep a pup in a shop instead of an appropriate environment, they are sacrificing the pup's welfare for profit. The people that run them are either evil or they are ignorant about dog welfare. It's isn't just about the puppy farms and nasty breeding practices, it is about making sure a pup has appropriate opportunity to develop normally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdie Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 All pet shops are inherently bad. A glass enclosure is an inappropriate environment for healthy mental and physical development of pups. The pups should be given space to exercise and learn clean habits, socialised with care and given the opportunity for quiet undisturbed sleep. These things cannot happen in a retail environment which was designed for the purpose of displaying and selling inanimate goods to crowds of strangers during retail trading hours. If a person make a decision to keep a pup in a shop instead of an appropriate environment, they are sacrificing the pup's welfare for profit. The people that run them are either evil or they are ignorant about dog welfare. It's isn't just about the puppy farms and nasty breeding practices, it is about making sure a pup has appropriate opportunity to develop normally. Yes indeed.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbie_tabbie Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 All pet shops are inherently bad. A glass enclosure is an inappropriate environment for healthy mental and physical development of pups. The pups should be given space to exercise and learn clean habits, socialised with care and given the opportunity for quiet undisturbed sleep. These things cannot happen in a retail environment which was designed for the purpose of displaying and selling inanimate goods to crowds of strangers during retail trading hours. If a person make a decision to keep a pup in a shop instead of an appropriate environment, they are sacrificing the pup's welfare for profit. The people that run them are either evil or they are ignorant about dog welfare. It's isn't just about the puppy farms and nasty breeding practices, it is about making sure a pup has appropriate opportunity to develop normally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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