Alternative To Zd Dry Dog Food

[Sheridan]

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<br />Trouble with protein? Can you explain that?<br />

<br />The short version is that allergies are based on the fact that consuming large proteins causes a huge histamine release in the body - a bit like hayfever, but obviously different. The histamine release is an over response by the immune system. <br /><br />Proteins with a molecular weight of less than 10,000 daltons generally go undetected by the immune system - so no histamine release. <br /><br />In Hills z/d, and also RC hypoallergenic, the proteins are hydrolysed down so they have an average molecular weight of 3,000 daltons. <br /><br />Starches included in the food are either extremely low protein <1% or purified so they contain no proteins. <br /><br />Some dogs will have chronic gastrointestinal symptoms not because they are allergic to one specific protein, it's due to large proteins causing skin or gut issues. It wouldn't matter what animal protein you tried if the dog's system cannot process large proteins - which is very often the case.<br />

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Yes I know all that.

[Staff'n'Toller]

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<br />Trouble with protein? Can you explain that?<br />

<br />The short version is that allergies are based on the fact that consuming large proteins causes a huge histamine release in the body - a bit like hayfever, but obviously different. The histamine release is an over response by the immune system. <br /><br />Proteins with a molecular weight of less than 10,000 daltons generally go undetected by the immune system - so no histamine release. <br /><br />In Hills z/d, and also RC hypoallergenic, the proteins are hydrolysed down so they have an average molecular weight of 3,000 daltons. <br /><br />Starches included in the food are either extremely low protein <1% or purified so they contain no proteins. <br /><br />Some dogs will have chronic gastrointestinal symptoms not because they are allergic to one specific protein, it's due to large proteins causing skin or gut issues. It wouldn't matter what animal protein you tried if the dog's system cannot process large proteins - which is very often the case.<br />

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Yes I know all that.

I know you did, it wasn't for your benefit.

Edited July 5, 2012 by Staff'n'Toller

[goldenluv]

Trouble with protein? Can you explain that?

The short version is that allergies are based on the fact that consuming large proteins causes a huge histamine release in the body - a bit like hayfever, but obviously different. The histamine release is an over response by the immune system.

Proteins with a molecular weight of less than 10,000 daltons generally go undetected by the immune system - so no histamine release.

In Hills z/d, and also RC hypoallergenic, the proteins are hydrolysed down so they have an average molecular weight of 3,000 daltons.

Starches included in the food are either extremely low protein <1% or purified so they contain no proteins.

Some dogs will have chronic gastrointestinal symptoms not because they are allergic to one specific protein, it's due to large proteins causing skin or gut issues. It wouldn't matter what animal protein you tried if the dog's system cannot process large proteins - which is very often the case.

Thank you very much, very interesting.

[Staff'n'Toller]

Trouble with protein? Can you explain that?

The short version is that allergies are based on the fact that consuming large proteins causes a huge histamine release in the body - a bit like hayfever, but obviously different. The histamine release is an over response by the immune system.

Proteins with a molecular weight of less than 10,000 daltons generally go undetected by the immune system - so no histamine release.

In Hills z/d, and also RC hypoallergenic, the proteins are hydrolysed down so they have an average molecular weight of 3,000 daltons.

Starches included in the food are either extremely low protein <1% or purified so they contain no proteins.

Some dogs will have chronic gastrointestinal symptoms not because they are allergic to one specific protein, it's due to large proteins causing skin or gut issues. It wouldn't matter what animal protein you tried if the dog's system cannot process large proteins - which is very often the case.

Thank you very much, very interesting.

No worries, it's hard to take all that in, in one visit with the Vet but if you want more info there is a Hills hotline purely for customers and I'm sure they would email you anything else you'd like to know.

Whilst it sometimes seems like the Vet just wants to flog you a really expensive food. When you are referred to a specialist for dietary indiscretion, the first thing they will do is put you on z/d ultra for 6-8 as an exclusion diet so absolutely nothing else to eat other than z/d. If this resolves the symptoms then it most likely is a large protein problem - obviously there can also be other reasons, I'm not a Vet :p. If it doesn't fix it though, then you move to 'working up' the symptoms, probably a pathway such as blood tests, abdominal ultrasound, then endoscopy and biopsies.

[Sheridan]

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<br />Trouble with protein? Can you explain that?<br />

<br />The short version is that allergies are based on the fact that consuming large proteins causes a huge histamine release in the body - a bit like hayfever, but obviously different. The histamine release is an over response by the immune system. <br /><br />Proteins with a molecular weight of less than 10,000 daltons generally go undetected by the immune system - so no histamine release. <br /><br />In Hills z/d, and also RC hypoallergenic, the proteins are hydrolysed down so they have an average molecular weight of 3,000 daltons. <br /><br />Starches included in the food are either extremely low protein <1% or purified so they contain no proteins. <br /><br />Some dogs will have chronic gastrointestinal symptoms not because they are allergic to one specific protein, it's due to large proteins causing skin or gut issues. It wouldn't matter what animal protein you tried if the dog's system cannot process large proteins - which is very often the case.<br />

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Yes I know all that.

I know you did, it wasn't for your benefit.

Netiquette 101: when you quote someone you're replying to them.

Anyway, the OP hasn't provided any further detail as yet so hopefully, she can get it clarified with the vet.