7 Week Old Cane Corso At The Off Leash Park :(

[rusty&biscuit]

I was thinking about this poor littley all night. Just so distressing for me to think a pup so young is not with it's mum

Why? The pup would have been fully weaned for weeks. Many bitches would be spending little time with pups of that age.

The owner was trying to socialize the pup in the same manner many novice owners adopt. Calling him a moron is unfair. Seems to me some friendly advice was what was called for.

Agree. When I got my first puppy who was from a BYB, I didn't know any better and had her down at the beach at 7 weeks trying to socialise, hell, I thought I was doing the right thing. He may have thought he was doing the right thing by not coddling it too, in case he encouraged the response. The guy probably just needs a friendly talking to, you have to remember that not every person is an expert on dogs.

[Salukifan]

I understand that the puppy would have been weaned from its mum for weeks but surely a puppy of 7 weeks should be still in the 'safe' enviroment of its litter mates & 'reputable' breeder.

I am a novice owner compared to many (including yourself) HW on this forum & I would never think of buying a 7 week old puppy, let alone taking the poor bloody pup to a dog park & letting him get in harms way.

Surely common sense is called for here. IMHO I don't think I was being unfair in calling him a moron cause that is how I feel about his careless actions & this situation

Well spare a thought for an even more novice dog owner. The pup isn't living on a chain 24/7 being ignored to "make it a better guard dog". How people have made the jump to write this owner off as an uncaring idiot defies my understanding.

Ignorance and stupidity are two different things. This guy bought a pup at an age it's legal to sell them and was attempting (albeit not well) to "socialise" it. Isn't that what the general public think dog parks are for?

An offer for some one on one time with a reliable adult dog and direction to a decent dog training club or provider might be all the information this guy needs to get this done right.

Edited May 16, 2012 by Haredown Whippets

[BC Crazy]

Lucky this post isn't about ME HW. It is however about a poor defenseless puppy & a ( don't worry I'm not going to say what I think again ) owner.

After all we ALL only want the best out comes for all our four legged friends I'm sure.

[Salukifan]

Lucky this post isn't about ME HW. It is however about a poor defenseless puppy & a ( don't worry I'm not going to say what I think again ) owner.

After all we ALL only want the best out comes for all our four legged friends I'm sure.

And I'd argue that a little less judging and a little more education will do more to help this pup and its owner - or you or any other owner.

For all anyone here knows that pup is a cossetted and much loved pet. It's age and it's owners lack of understanding of dog parks don't give any of us the information to decide otherwise. However it seems to me that the pups breed may be leading some posters to make assumptions about the owner. More's the pity.

If you want to give someone a serve, how about the owner of the dog that allowed it to bully the pup? Dog parks COULD be great places to socialise young dogs if it weren't for owners like that.

Edited May 16, 2012 by Haredown Whippets

[Kavik]

I agree with Haredown Whippets. I would say general opinion of the public is that dog parks are good for socialising puppies. I used to think this way at one point too, until my dog turned dog aggressive. Many people don't understand what could happen.

After some thinking and insight from a course i am doing, I think my dog aggro dog is easily aroused/overaroused, and this overarousal with other dogs turned into aggression.

[nawnim]

Lucky this post isn't about ME HW. It is however about a poor defenseless puppy & a ( don't worry I'm not going to say what I think again ) owner.

After all we ALL only want the best out comes for all our four legged friends I'm sure.

And I'd argue that a little less judging and a little more education will do more to help this pup and its owner - or you or any other owner.

For all anyone here knows that pup is a cossetted and much loved pet. It's age and it's owners lack of understanding of dog parks don't give any of us the information to decide otherwise. However it seems to me that the pups breed may be leading some posters to make assumptions about the owner. More's the pity.

If you want to give someone a serve, how about the owner of the dog that allowed it to bully the pup? Dog parks COULD be great places to socialise young dogs if it weren't for owners like that.

Perhaps the owner of the other dog was also ignorant and thought they were just playing. Many dog park users and others don't know when their dogs are being aggressive or even rude. They will say that their dog is just being friendly.

[mita]

That's a good point it's an opportunity for education. The OP's already tucked away some info about vaccination to impart next time they meet up in the Off Leash park. Actually that's a perfect place for sharing in a friendly way.

The little puppy, like all our puppies, has a lot to learn and we all gain from advice on how best to do it. And specially if being exposed to the hurly burly of a dog park is good way to socialise at that stage.

RSPCA Qld has a Behaviour Helpline.....no, it's not for dobbing people in. It's for owners to ask questions about behaviours that come up... of the people who specialise in training. I stumbled on it recently, when trying to get some information about settling a new dog with resident cats. I liked the tone of the person I spoke with....attentive, helpful and didn't make me feel like a dopey klutz.

Is there anything like that in NSW? Actually the Q'ld training person I spoke to, was very happy for me to pass on their contact details to someone in Victoria.

A resource like that, would be helpful for the puppy's owner.

Edited May 16, 2012 by mita

[Salukifan]

Lucky this post isn't about ME HW. It is however about a poor defenseless puppy & a ( don't worry I'm not going to say what I think again ) owner.

After all we ALL only want the best out comes for all our four legged friends I'm sure.

And I'd argue that a little less judging and a little more education will do more to help this pup and its owner - or you or any other owner.

For all anyone here knows that pup is a cossetted and much loved pet. It's age and it's owners lack of understanding of dog parks don't give any of us the information to decide otherwise. However it seems to me that the pups breed may be leading some posters to make assumptions about the owner. More's the pity.

If you want to give someone a serve, how about the owner of the dog that allowed it to bully the pup? Dog parks COULD be great places to socialise young dogs if it weren't for owners like that.

Perhaps the owner of the other dog was also ignorant and thought they were just playing. Many dog park users and others don't know when their dogs are being aggressive or even rude. They will say that their dog is just being friendly.

Fair point. Although it was clear the owner knew the dog "didn't like puppies".

Edited May 16, 2012 by Haredown Whippets

[Kirislin]

Any idiot can own a dog, any kind of dog.

Hmmmm....and it seems any idiot can breed and sell any dog too.

Yup.

[dancinbcs]

I'm really hoping I see him there again tomorrow so I can let him know that his puppy isn't fully vaccinated.

The girl is so tiny still and was huddled between his (owner's) legs with her tail down too. Poor thing was terrified and had no idea what to do.

Luckily the owners of the dogs who frequent the park all kept their dogs away from it!

I'd be worried about the little girl picking up diseases -- you can't just assume that all the other dogs have been vaccinated too.

And as much as I'd love to give the owner a what for, I'd really love to be able to sit down and talk to him rationally about what could happen and what he needs to do now for his pup. First thing would be a vet visit to check her over. I'm not sure if Cane Corsos have any health problems that should be tested for (hip displaysia?) but she should be checked over.

I am surprised no one commented on the bit bolded above. How tiny? I would expect a 7 week old dog that matures to the size of a Cane Corso to be somewhere around 8-10kgs which is hardly tiny. Young yes, not fully vaccinated yes, but tiny, no. If the puppy is a lot smaller than that it may in fact be a lot younger than the supposed 7 weeks.

[Salukifan]

I'm really hoping I see him there again tomorrow so I can let him know that his puppy isn't fully vaccinated.

The girl is so tiny still and was huddled between his (owner's) legs with her tail down too. Poor thing was terrified and had no idea what to do.

Luckily the owners of the dogs who frequent the park all kept their dogs away from it!

I'd be worried about the little girl picking up diseases -- you can't just assume that all the other dogs have been vaccinated too.

And as much as I'd love to give the owner a what for, I'd really love to be able to sit down and talk to him rationally about what could happen and what he needs to do now for his pup. First thing would be a vet visit to check her over. I'm not sure if Cane Corsos have any health problems that should be tested for (hip displaysia?) but she should be checked over.

I am surprised no one commented on the bit bolded above. How tiny? I would expect a 7 week old dog that matures to the size of a Cane Corso to be somewhere around 8-10kgs which is hardly tiny. Young yes, not fully vaccinated yes, but tiny, no. If the puppy is a lot smaller than that it may in fact be a lot younger than the supposed 7 weeks.

Or it ain't what the owner thought he bought. It's happened a time or six.

[LizT]

I'm really hoping I see him there again tomorrow so I can let him know that his puppy isn't fully vaccinated.

The girl is so tiny still and was huddled between his (owner's) legs with her tail down too. Poor thing was terrified and had no idea what to do.

Luckily the owners of the dogs who frequent the park all kept their dogs away from it!

I'd be worried about the little girl picking up diseases -- you can't just assume that all the other dogs have been vaccinated too.

And as much as I'd love to give the owner a what for, I'd really love to be able to sit down and talk to him rationally about what could happen and what he needs to do now for his pup. First thing would be a vet visit to check her over. I'm not sure if Cane Corsos have any health problems that should be tested for (hip displaysia?) but she should be checked over.

I am surprised no one commented on the bit bolded above. How tiny? I would expect a 7 week old dog that matures to the size of a Cane Corso to be somewhere around 8-10kgs which is hardly tiny. Young yes, not fully vaccinated yes, but tiny, no. If the puppy is a lot smaller than that it may in fact be a lot younger than the supposed 7 weeks.

Maybe it's a "relative tiny" as in it has that look of a vunerable infant despite being a big puppy!

[BC Crazy]

I'm really hoping I see him there again tomorrow so I can let him know that his puppy isn't fully vaccinated.

The girl is so tiny still and was huddled between his (owner's) legs with her tail down too. Poor thing was terrified and had no idea what to do.

Luckily the owners of the dogs who frequent the park all kept their dogs away from it!

I'd be worried about the little girl picking up diseases -- you can't just assume that all the other dogs have been vaccinated too.

And as much as I'd love to give the owner a what for, I'd really love to be able to sit down and talk to him rationally about what could happen and what he needs to do now for his pup. First thing would be a vet visit to check her over. I'm not sure if Cane Corsos have any health problems that should be tested for (hip displaysia?) but she should be checked over.

I am surprised no one commented on the bit bolded above. How tiny? I would expect a 7 week old dog that matures to the size of a Cane Corso to be somewhere around 8-10kgs which is hardly tiny. Young yes, not fully vaccinated yes, but tiny, no. If the puppy is a lot smaller than that it may in fact be a lot younger than the supposed 7 weeks.

Yes that is a very good point. Pup would be a fair size even at '7' ? weeks. I was shocked when I saw a pic of one of those CC's, wasn't sure what they looked like. They are huge when full grown & very big boned.

Edited May 17, 2012 by BC Crazy

[RiverStar-Aura]

Oh no this girl is very tiny considering it's supposed to be a Cane Corso. She'd be lucky to weigh 5 kilos is my guess -- she's only about the same size as my Kirah who's 6-7 kilos and her paws didn't seem too big yet.

They weren't at the park this arvo so I couldn't give them some helpful info but I hope she's doing okay.

As for the SBT who laid into her yesterday, his owner is a nob. He whacks the dog around the head and yells at it and the dog gets quite aggressive when something sets him off.

I really feel for the staffy because he has the potential to be a gorgeous boy but his poor owner doesn't help him.

[BC Crazy]

I find that it happens a lot with some owners they seem to be kind of rough/loud around their dogs. Yelling & stuff just raises the levels of arousel imo. Gee things up if you will.

Even if that is not their intention at times, just there way. I really don't like loud carry on & that is why when I go to our leash free I pick my times & stay away from everyone with my 2.

Its funny cause my guys are quite put off by loudness & avoid it as well. Just not used to it I guess. I am pretty quiet & we have a quiet type of house hold in general really.

RSA, Shame about the SBT they are such a nice dog but sometimes they seem to attract the type of owners you are describing this poor fellow has. Rough & loud. Smacking them around & stuff.

I don't know why it is. Trying to make them 'tuff' or something, who'd know but it does them or the breed no favours at all.

This pup sounds to small to be a CC. I guess you 'get what you pay for' is the old saying, isnt it. Didn't he say he brought the pup on the 'cheap'.

Edited May 16, 2012 by BC Crazy

[rusty&biscuit]

I'm really hoping I see him there again tomorrow so I can let him know that his puppy isn't fully vaccinated.

The girl is so tiny still and was huddled between his (owner's) legs with her tail down too. Poor thing was terrified and had no idea what to do.

Luckily the owners of the dogs who frequent the park all kept their dogs away from it!

I'd be worried about the little girl picking up diseases -- you can't just assume that all the other dogs have been vaccinated too.

And as much as I'd love to give the owner a what for, I'd really love to be able to sit down and talk to him rationally about what could happen and what he needs to do now for his pup. First thing would be a vet visit to check her over. I'm not sure if Cane Corsos have any health problems that should be tested for (hip displaysia?) but she should be checked over.

I am surprised no one commented on the bit bolded above. How tiny? I would expect a 7 week old dog that matures to the size of a Cane Corso to be somewhere around 8-10kgs which is hardly tiny. Young yes, not fully vaccinated yes, but tiny, no. If the puppy is a lot smaller than that it may in fact be a lot younger than the supposed 7 weeks.

Or it ain't what the owner thought he bought. It's happened a time or six.

Yep, got mine as an '8 week old', vet said she was only 5 weeks So glad that years have gone by and I know better now!!

[BC Crazy]

Oh wow, thats sad isn't it? You must have been really shocked. All a learning curve for us but can't help but think about the poor pup, 5 weeks

Makes you wonder what levels some people will lower themselves to to make money ,selling underage puppies