dasha Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 As the heading says, where is there some information in regards to breeding a bitch and using different sires. I have heard of it before and there is some talk amongst some sheepdog people that they would be interested in finding out a bit more in relation to it. They want to know things like rough costs to then find out which pup belongs to which sire. What processes are used in order to do it, what testing needs to be done and how easy is it. How long would results take to come back. How easy is it for vets to do as obviously a lot of properties aren't located near a repro specialist So if anyone could point me in the direction of where to find out some more or if anyone has had experiences with it would also be good. I am sure there was something about it somewhere but couldn't find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becks Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 try searching in this forum, there has been chat about it before and some other breeders have done this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Just a quick answer because searching for the other threads will probably help more... DNA from the pups, the dam and all the possible sires needs to be provided in the form of swabs. These would be sent directly to the lab you choose to do the DNA profile (any of the ones that deal with dogs are able to do this and will provide the swabs and the forms). From memory it's not particularly expensive but check out each lab ($20? $30? per pup, could be remembering wrong but it's not hundreds!) I would assume you are talking about dogs registered with working dog registers rather than just random working dogs which you want to know the sire of just because you want to know :laugh:. You would need to check with the relevant register about what they require - probably a microchip identifying each pup and a vet to take the swabs & verify which pup is which on the forms I would think. No need for any sort of specialist to be involved if it's all natural matings, any vet should be able to microchip and take a cheek swab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasha Posted April 9, 2012 Author Share Posted April 9, 2012 Thanks for that. I had a little search as well and found out a little more as well. So it doesn't really sound that difficult or costly. The only thing that may put some of them off is them needing to be microchipped. But it won't hurt them. I will look into it some more so I can let them know more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisart Dobes Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Have done this once and have another dual sire litter on the way now. You don't have to microchip the bubbas prior to testing parentage only prior to registering them. We do the dna swabs at week one - test results through Animal Network are back within a week - as long as the pups are identified at the time of swab and you can ensure you keep that up to scratch (I used tipex marks and collars to double up) you can then send in the microchip numbers when they are done at 6 weeks or whenever they are done and Animal Network update the paperwork and certify it. The dna results are needed along with the microchip number to register the litter ofcourse but you can do the testing prior to microchipping. The test is $70 per pup plus any of the adults you have to add on their dna database - ours are all on there so I don't have to do that part. I want to know which pup is which sire as soon as I can especially with this next litter as we have 4 from one sire sold and 2 from the other. Bit of mucking around but its worth it. I wanted to do both matings with this girl and technically she only has to carry one litter - much better for her in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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