Sheridan Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 The sit is great. When I was watching your link I wondered how the handler would feel in the show ring Very cute dogs. Interesting to see the difference between Irish and American Wheatens in coat styles. You and I have discussed this before but I was told by a terrier man years ago that the American style of presenting the Wheatens is totally against what the Irish intended. I saw a photo recently of an American wheaten that hadn't been primped up for the show ring and it was amazing to see how close the style was to the Irish wheaten. Slightly different coat, heavier, and a much darker wheat colour but still, there was the wave in the hair as per the standard. The American wheatens tend to be shorter in the back. The measurement is the same but they measure them from a different spot so they have ended up with a shorter back, more in the kerry style. And I wonder now given I've seen that photo, how much of the American style is down to the Irish not sending their best dogs overseas? If you send over dogs with incorrect coats in the first place, don't whinge about them not having correct coats now. The wheaten in the video was very nice and I loved the 'Does he have eyes?' question. I've got that before. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faytiges Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Thanks for that very interesting, really enjoyed it. The Irish Setter....well...look at our Irish here, soooooo different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poochmad Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Love the Glen, the Irish Terrier was just striking and my fave was the Irish Wolfhound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 The wheaten in the video was very nice and I loved the 'Does he have eyes?' question. I've got that before. :D And didnt he have lovely eyes. You could hear the audience swoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifi Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Thank you so much for posting this Sheridan, I'm still downloading it (satelite broadband...I'd better pack a lunch & thermos !!) fifi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 Have you managed to see it yet, fifi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emgem Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 And I wonder now given I've seen that photo, how much of the American style is down to the Irish not sending their best dogs overseas? If you send over dogs with incorrect coats in the first place, don't whinge about them not having correct coats now. Thanks for posting this, Sheridan. You might be interested in the link below, if you haven't seen it already. It has a number of photos of early wheatens, including a series on puppies born in America (on the preservation page). The puppies seem to have the typical harsh puppy coat until the sixties or seventies where upon the puppy coat style changed. http://www.irishwheaten.com/ I am not certain that it is as simple as the dogs with poor coats being sent to America but rather that the Americans bred for a squarer body shape and prioritised that over coat type. It looks like the dogs being bred in Ireland had fairly consistent coat types. They probably also started with a small genetic pool and they definitely had problems with over use of popular sires. (Not that popular sires are a problem unique to Wheatens or Americans). Another source told me that all but a handful of about 400 American champions between 1979 and 1983 had one particular sire somewhere in their lineage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeeGee Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Thank you for sharing this! I especially enjoyed seeing the beagle :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boronia Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Yep, I say thank you as well. Loved seeing the Wheaten and the Wolfie and I loved Homer the little Glen of Imaal Terrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifi Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Have you managed to see it yet, fifi? No, I've seen up to the Irish terrier, but we drop out before the rest loads. never fear...I'm off to town tomorrow to visit a friend with ADSL :D fifi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayly Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Hey Sheridan, recognise the man they were talking to? :laugh: Loved the Irish Terrier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 Hey Sheridan, recognise the man they were talking to? :laugh: Loved the Irish Terrier! Yes! It'd be great if they came out again! 'All I see are dead ears!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizT Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Cool. The Irish certainly have contributed much to the World of Dogs. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayly Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Hey Sheridan, recognise the man they were talking to? :laugh: Loved the Irish Terrier! Yes! It'd be great if they came out again! 'All I see are dead ears!' "What's with your ears?" *flap hands around your head* They were the best judges ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Thanks for posting that Sheridan, very enjoyable. Nice to see purebred dogs showing themselves off to the public too :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted March 7, 2012 Author Share Posted March 7, 2012 "What's with your ears?" *flap hands around your head* They were the best judges ever! And very enthusiastic about their Irish dogs, which is great to see. Thanks for posting that Sheridan, very enjoyable. Nice to see purebred dogs showing themselves off to the public too :) I was quite interested to see the difference between the red and the irish red and white. The red and whites in Ireland, I'm told, are mostly field rather than show dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkyTansy Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Thanks for that very interesting, really enjoyed it. The Irish Setter....well...look at our Irish here, soooooo different. Yes they are very different. I loved the melting expression on the Irish Setter in the video. Also loved the irish red and white - and you could tell it was a working dog too :D Thanks for posting Sheridan :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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