Staff'n'Toller Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 The part i find odd is on the website they address all of the points about the no kill equation but not the trap neuter release part for cats A part they really need Animal Aid started FIV testing all their strays at impound some time ago and found an astounding amount were FIV positive, so I can see why they may not wish to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westiemum Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 Good point SnT - I believe FIV is very contagious... The part i find odd is on the website they address all of the points about the no kill equation but not the trap neuter release part for cats A part they really need Animal Aid started FIV testing all their strays at impound some time ago and found an astounding amount were FIV positive, so I can see why they may not wish to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) Good point SnT - I believe FIV is very contagious... The part i find odd is on the website they address all of the points about the no kill equation but not the trap neuter release part for cats A part they really need Animal Aid started FIV testing all their strays at impound some time ago and found an astounding amount were FIV positive, so I can see why they may not wish to do it. Yah it is...the incidence was actually higher than previously thought and I guess with totally feral cats you'd have to expect that rate to be the same or even higher. We've desexed quite a lot of the 'secret cats' near us though, since the Pet Rescue poster came out we've had some of our good clients admit they have a cat they sort of own and bring it in. Edited February 27, 2012 by Staff'n'Toller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirty Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) Double post! Edited February 27, 2012 by Kirty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirty Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 They think FIV is up to about 30% of Victorian cats now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MavericksMission Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 They think FIV is up to about 30% of Victorian cats now. yep, we get a huge amount of FIV positive cats through our shelter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel_P Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Mr Bailey is going on one months of stats, he won't provide information about any other months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 They have to provide stats to the Vic Govt, how often I can't recall. That's likely to be FOI-able. They should also report stats in their annual report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckandsteve Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I understand TNR might not be possible but they dont even address it. They don't say its something we are working towards, something we find not practical for the area. On his blog he brings it up so why not at GAWS? I dislike the LDH and RSPCA too but if he is going to have a go at them then I feel he needs to be consistent. Hopefully they release more stats soon, I have heard dogs are still going well, not so great with cats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I take it you don't like the new regime, chuckandsteve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/10/17/285711_news.html The protest at Geelong town hall was pretty huge. It was around the time of the BSL march in Melbourne . They put our effort to shame really...Good on them. My question would be how many of those protesters were actually people from the Geelong community. There is a big enough problem with feral cats and diseases they carry in Geelong. All very well about a trap and release program but there is a lot of native and domestic animals being destroyed, and sick cats running about. Sometimes it's better for the cat. Yes, indeed, see my original post. Have you been wronged by a Geelong resident or something? Edited February 27, 2012 by Aussie3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 They think FIV is up to about 30% of Victorian cats now. That's terrible, but not surprising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/10/17/285711_news.html The protest at Geelong town hall was pretty huge. It was around the time of the BSL march in Melbourne . They put our effort to shame really...Good on them. My question would be how many of those protesters were actually people from the Geelong community. There is a big enough problem with feral cats and diseases they carry in Geelong. All very well about a trap and release program but there is a lot of native and domestic animals being destroyed, and sick cats running about. Sometimes it's better for the cat. Yes, indeed, see my original post. Have you been wronged by a Geelong resident or something? How do you get that from my querying how many protesters were from Geelong and writing about a historical fact about feral cats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyt Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 The stats will move around and <3% PTS will probably not be achievable in the medium term. The important thing is that there is a new, life preserving culture and this will give life to thinking of and executing on programs, practices, policies and procedures being put in place that will minimise the the PTS ratio.. This in turn will put pressure on other facilities around the country to adopt live preserving practices. Well done GAWS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkhe Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 The stats will move around and <3% PTS will probably not be achievable in the medium term. The important thing is that there is a new, life preserving culture and this will give life to thinking of and executing on programs, practices, policies and procedures being put in place that will minimise the the PTS ratio.. This in turn will put pressure on other facilities around the country to adopt live preserving practices. Well done GAWS. :thumbsup: well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/10/17/285711_news.html The protest at Geelong town hall was pretty huge. It was around the time of the BSL march in Melbourne . They put our effort to shame really...Good on them. My question would be how many of those protesters were actually people from the Geelong community. There is a big enough problem with feral cats and diseases they carry in Geelong. All very well about a trap and release program but there is a lot of native and domestic animals being destroyed, and sick cats running about. Sometimes it's better for the cat. Yes, indeed, see my original post. Have you been wronged by a Geelong resident or something? How do you get that from my querying how many protesters were from Geelong and writing about a historical fact about feral cats? Your other post stated that only the footy would get Geelong residents off their butts or something to that effect, and then you were questioning whether any Geelong residents were at the protest, just seemed like you weren't a fan. No harm, innocent question :) Edited February 28, 2012 by Aussie3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Your other post stated that only the footy would get Geelong residents off their butts or something to that effect, and then you were questioning whether any Geelong residents were at the protest, just seemed like you weren't a fan. No harm, innocent question Most were Geelong residents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/10/17/285711_news.html The protest at Geelong town hall was pretty huge. It was around the time of the BSL march in Melbourne . They put our effort to shame really...Good on them. My question would be how many of those protesters were actually people from the Geelong community. There is a big enough problem with feral cats and diseases they carry in Geelong. All very well about a trap and release program but there is a lot of native and domestic animals being destroyed, and sick cats running about. Sometimes it's better for the cat. Yes, indeed, see my original post. Have you been wronged by a Geelong resident or something? How do you get that from my querying how many protesters were from Geelong and writing about a historical fact about feral cats? Your other post stated that only the footy would get Geelong residents off their butts or something to that effect, and then you were questioning whether any Geelong residents were at the protest, just seemed like you weren't a fan. No harm, innocent question :) I'm from Geelong so #fail on your part there. Brilliant town but the residents aren't known for getting over excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Your other post stated that only the footy would get Geelong residents off their butts or something to that effect, and then you were questioning whether any Geelong residents were at the protest, just seemed like you weren't a fan. No harm, innocent question Most were Geelong residents I queried it because I wouldn't be surprised if people were bussed in from outside given the subject matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/10/17/285711_news.html The protest at Geelong town hall was pretty huge. It was around the time of the BSL march in Melbourne . They put our effort to shame really...Good on them. My question would be how many of those protesters were actually people from the Geelong community. There is a big enough problem with feral cats and diseases they carry in Geelong. All very well about a trap and release program but there is a lot of native and domestic animals being destroyed, and sick cats running about. Sometimes it's better for the cat. Yes, indeed, see my original post. Have you been wronged by a Geelong resident or something? How do you get that from my querying how many protesters were from Geelong and writing about a historical fact about feral cats? Your other post stated that only the footy would get Geelong residents off their butts or something to that effect, and then you were questioning whether any Geelong residents were at the protest, just seemed like you weren't a fan. No harm, innocent question :) I'm from Geelong so #fail on your part there. Brilliant town but the residents aren't known for getting over excited. :laugh: I asked a question, I got an answer so I'd say it's a win, but that's just me. It is a great town and a lot of it's residents may not be as apathetic as you think, of course I can only speak for the ones I know. I could be wrong. Edited February 28, 2012 by Aussie3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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