Partipaws Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Hi all, just wanted to get some ideas of how to go about our situation and what direction I should take. Long story short.... Just bred my two girls to my new UK import boy and so far things look no good firstly we have had his sperm checked and all is good. He is 15 months old and has not been bred before. The two girls have both had a litter each, one has had a c-section and this particular girl we missed on her previous cycle, so are now wondering if maybe there is some underlying issue which is preventing her to conceive?? Both these girls have cycled together for 2 years and have been right on time. Last year they were 2 months late, and again were due in season back in November but again came in season mid January. Because both these litters were very important to me we got both girls progesterone tested so not to miss them and even did AI on the first girl because at first our import boy had no idea due to inexperience and we certainly did not want to miss her.... He finally worked out whey he was doing and continued on to do natural matings with this girl and the next. I have not done an ultrasound on the girls as a few times I have had to cancel due to work. Girls should be due in 2-3 weeks but given the lack of belly etc I am very doubtful they are pregnant. What avenues should I be exploring!? I know this happens but it seems odd to have missed 2 girls especially given we have done progesterone tests and fertility tests on the male?? For the girl who has now missed twice to two separate studs, should I be checking things out with her?? Possible scarring from previous c-section or health issues etc??? Thank you in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lappiemum Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Hi Partipaws- for your girl that had the c section, its probably a good idea to have her looked at by a repro specialist - there are a number of reasons a bitch can fail to concieve or fail to carry a pregnancy through. On the prog testing - did you do it all the way through or only to get a base line? Sometimes levels can rise very quickly, and your window of opportunity can close on you just as quickly. The only way to be sure is to have a scan or an x-ray - it may be that there is a singleton so it would be best to be prepared, just incase. Finally, there is the case of absorption, which can happen for a lot of reasons. However, you would have had to taken your girls in for confirmation of pregnancy around week 3 - 4 to track that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partipaws Posted February 25, 2012 Author Share Posted February 25, 2012 Thank you Lappiemum - yes agreed that is my only problem... I would in this case not know whether they reabsorbed or not as we never confirmed pregnancy in the first place. This has been the first time I have ever carried out progesterone testing.. We tested 3 times, and 2 times, so I guess it would only estimate when ovulation would occur - but this was what was advised to me. We mated during all of which time the girls were receptive - so I can see this would not be a complete guarantee - but nevertheless in the past we left things pretty natural and never worried about progesterone tests and managed pretty well - funny how the more you interfer and worry the more unsuccessful you can be. But anyway we will see how we go! I appreciate the feed back :) do you have any other thoughts about why all of a sudden we are missing girls - someone mentioned the herpes virus which kind of scared me hence why I have come on here for more views? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schwarzbear Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) Thank you Lappiemum - yes agreed that is my only problem... I would in this case not know whether they reabsorbed or not as we never confirmed pregnancy in the first place. This has been the first time I have ever carried out progesterone testing.. We tested 3 times, and 2 times, so I guess it would only estimate when ovulation would occur - but this was what was advised to me. We mated during all of which time the girls were receptive - so I can see this would not be a complete guarantee - but nevertheless in the past we left things pretty natural and never worried about progesterone tests and managed pretty well - funny how the more you interfer and worry the more unsuccessful you can be. But anyway we will see how we go! I appreciate the feed back :) do you have any other thoughts about why all of a sudden we are missing girls - someone mentioned the herpes virus which kind of scared me hence why I have come on here for more views? Hi Partipaws, One of the reasons bitches not conceiving is thyroid problems. When I want to mate my girls every time I have their thyroid tested. If there is a problem easy to fix with tablets. I always do this a month before I want to mate my girls. Most of my litters are by frozen semen and I start progesterone testing from Day 2 (as soon as I see blood) and continue every second day until my vet says the time is right. Did this even for my last litter which was a natural mating. Lost a bitch line because I used to wait until Day 5 (which was recommneded by vet) and that girl was out by Day 5. Also have a vaginal swab done just to make sure the bitch has no nasties. Good luck Edited February 25, 2012 by schwarzbear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partipaws Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 Thank you - good advise will investigate this. Sorry I did forget to mention the girls were swabbed aswell and all was good - a lot of my breeder friends put their girls on a course of AB's and this has been something I follow too. Thank you :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EISHUND Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 (edited) Keep prog testing her next time,(even after the mating) you may find that her levels are falling & she may require tablets to keep her levels up to maintain pregnancy. Edited March 7, 2012 by EISHUND Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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