mita Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Here's a site with food safety tips re canned products. http://www.yehey.com/lifestyle/food/article2.aspx?id=12215 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusky Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 I am so sorry for this poor poor lady and her dogs, her heart must be breaking. It has occurred to me and must have to some of you that tampering is not unheard of. It may or may not be the canned food, that remains to be seen and honestly without a lot more testing and positive results it is difficult to know, is very confusing. 1) Can could have been deliberately tampered with by ???? 2) It may not be caused by the canned food at all. 3) The company are at fault but this has to be proven conclusively If it was the can we will know on national news in a day or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eridorsmooths Posted March 20, 2005 Author Share Posted March 20, 2005 Testing has been carried out on the can and autopsy's on the dogs. From what i have heard it is definate that the canned food was at fault. Lets just pray that the surviving girl Tia is going to pull through she is 12 years old. Jacq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifi Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 thanks for the updates Jacq, I just feel gutted for this poor woman & her dogs. fifi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachaels Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Marilyn, what an unthinkable tragedy you and your family are suffering. I am so sorry to hear of your loss and I sincerely hope that Tia pulls through. Rachaels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dianne Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 may the gods be with Tia ~ she has survived to a beautiful age, may she not have it ended in this manner. To Marilyn ~ our hearts go to you and your beautiful dogs. Dianne and Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelsun Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 What I cannot understand is, if the food was at fault, why havent we heard of a mass outbreak of this? I wold imagine batch runs of a product would be pretty big? This was one of the things that crossed my mind. It is possible that it is an isolated incident of course but a concern would be, what about the rest of the cans from that case, or that batch lot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelsun Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Testing has been carried out on the can and autopsy's on the dogs. From what i have heard it is definate that the canned food was at fault. Not disputing what you have heard in the least, but heresay is not basis for accusation (and not saying that you are...hard to get this across) I've seen some rumours spread into serious issues because someone said "as I heard it". I just would hate to have something like this happen and cause undue panic. We had a recent issue with Lepto here that has caused just that.....half information and a lot of surmising..yes dogs have died, but the issue has been blown totally out of whack here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fido666 Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Hi, I have read on another list that the remaining Collie Tia has been taken off the drip. The vets are going to feed her very small amounts of food to see if she can keep it down. Tia being a house dog got far less of the tinned food then the other 7. This information was posted by the owner of these poor Collies. Fingers crossed that Tia pulls through. regards, Corine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tess32 Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 Testing has been carried out on the can and autopsy's on the dogs. From what i have heard it is definate that the canned food was at fault. Not disputing what you have heard in the least, but heresay is not basis for accusation (and not saying that you are...hard to get this across) I've seen some rumours spread into serious issues because someone said "as I heard it". I just would hate to have something like this happen and cause undue panic. We had a recent issue with Lepto here that has caused just that.....half information and a lot of surmising..yes dogs have died, but the issue has been blown totally out of whack here. She would have heard it from the lady herself - she is on the collie list we all subscribe to. Nat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eridorsmooths Posted March 21, 2005 Author Share Posted March 21, 2005 Thanks Tess yes I have simply quoted what Marilyn herself wrote. It is good news to hear about Tia this morning. I would say the reason nothing has been removed from shelves or made public is due to the trime frame, being the weekend. Jacqui Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolibah Coolies Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 AMAZING nothing has been on the radio today or not the ABC has anyone else heard any media about his horible thing!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxSpots Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 AMAZING nothing has been on the radio today or not the ABC has anyone else heard any media about his horible thing!! I wonder if any vets around the country have had any sudden death cases and not found a link (not knowing what has happened with multiple collies, they may not be looking for food related probs in any cases presented) So glad one has pulled thru :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusky Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 Any more news? I am pleased to see that Tia is improving, wondering about the canned food though. Keep going little Tia be strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eridorsmooths Posted March 21, 2005 Author Share Posted March 21, 2005 I have not heard any updates on Tia's condition. I would say the food company is keeping things quiet until further testing, maybe? Jacq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picaflor Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 :rolleyes: This is shocking!! Six dogs :rolleyes: ;) :p Does anyone know what TYPE (brand) of canned food?? If there is some sort of worry about naming-names please PM me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordelia Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 If it does prove to be Botulism (which, in canned food is the most likely cause), there will be no way to prove conclusively that it was a manufacturing problem or that any other cans were infected. The fact that there hasn't been at least State wide reports of deaths or illness suggests that it is likely to be a very tragic, yet isolated incident. Be aware that if it is a major brand, they will do everything in their power to show that they are not at fault, including blaming human error (once the cans were sold) and they have the money to do so. I can totally understand why the name hasn't been mentioned as this could open up the path for a massive lawsuit that the company will win. So pleased the last Collie is starting to do better. I pray she continues to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 (edited) Could Botulism not be the cause? From memory the dogs bled from their mouths and rectums? I was under the impression that Botulism takes a few days for animals/humans to show symptoms? Whatever the end results show, it is still a tragedy. I could not imagine anything being worse regarding our beloved dogs. Edited March 21, 2005 by Lablover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eridorsmooths Posted March 22, 2005 Author Share Posted March 22, 2005 Hi guys please go and look in the general section for the latest update Jacq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lobo's Cheeky Chops Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 I'm very sorry to hear about Marilyn's tragic losses. Lobo and my heartfelt wishes go out to her and Tia. Please keep us all informed of how the legal proceedings go i'm gonna be well careful of canned food from now on - how scary ! forewarned is forearmed !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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