crystale Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 i have a three month german shepherd he is very healthy other than he has one testicle is this normal. I have been advised that he will have to be neutured because there is a risk of cancer. I was told that this will be a more expensive operation. Is the breeder liable or at least morally accountable to meet the expense of this operation as he has been sold to us supposedly as an entire dog. any advice would be appreciated....the breeder has a excellent reputation, but I would like to know my rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puglvr Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 If he has an undescended testicle, yes he will probably need to be desexed. as for the cost, well my boy had one and it was speculated that it was in his abdomen and that it would cost more for the surgery. Longer operation, maybe need for fluids, extra pain relief all reasons for extra cost. normal male desexing is pretty quick and straight forward, unlike female surgery which is abdominal surgery. So yes it probably will cost more, however you won't know this until it is done, because he could be like my boy and it was just sitting outside the entrance to the testicle- just hadn't dropped. It cost the same as a normal desex. Speak to the breeder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Best you speak to the breeder. Did he have two when you first got him? some go up and down for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janba Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 One of mine had a yo yo testicle - sometimes there, sometimes not. It was always palpable in the inguenal(sp?) canal near the scrotum but wouldn't stay down. My vet (repro specialist) put him on a magnesium & zinc supplement and I kept him lean as fat puppies do have more problems with testis. Investigation into his lines showed that they had slow descending testis and his was finally down by 6 months. The ANKC does allow up to 6 months for testis to descend for showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I used zinc on one of my boys, but all his half brothers had both down much earlier. Some are slower then others and yes some seem to have yo yo's instead of testicles :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janba Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) I used zinc on one of my boys, but all his half brothers had both down much earlier. Some are slower then others and yes some seem to have yo yo's instead of testicles :D I think the fact that we continually check to see if it is there makes they yo yoing worse :laugh: "She's going to play with my balls again - better hide it" Edited February 3, 2012 by Janba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simply Grand Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Oh I didn't know they could go up and down! :D Riley has one undescended, pretty sure it's not a yo-yo and he's 9 months now so I don't think it's coming down. He will be desexed shortly, I have no intention of asking the breeder to pay for anything as Riley was sold as a pet and I view it as just one of those things. I suppose if I'd been after a show dog it might be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janba Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 The worry with a yo yoing testi is that it will grow too large to fit through the opening into the scrotum and get stuck on the wrong side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simply Grand Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Hahaha @ Janba! Poor boys, everyone poking around down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Hahaha @ Janba! Poor boys, everyone poking around down there. Yes I never knew I would be so interested in dog balls - ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumof4girls Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Oh I didn't know they could go up and down! :D Riley has one undescended, pretty sure it's not a yo-yo and he's 9 months now so I don't think it's coming down. He will be desexed shortly, I have no intention of asking the breeder to pay for anything as Riley was sold as a pet and I view it as just one of those things. I suppose if I'd been after a show dog it might be different. :-) same :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janba Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Hahaha @ Janba! Poor boys, everyone poking around down there. Yes I never knew I would be so interested in dog balls - ever Mer neither till In had one with problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsdog2 Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) i have a three month german shepherd he is very healthy other than he has one testicle is this normal. I have been advised that he will have to be neutured because there is a risk of cancer. I was told that this will be a more expensive operation. Is the breeder liable or at least morally accountable to meet the expense of this operation as he has been sold to us supposedly as an entire dog. any advice would be appreciated....the breeder has a excellent reputation, but I would like to know my rights. My last GSD had two undecended testicles at three months of age. He was already sold and waiting to go to another home (the new owner planned to show him), however the owner changed his mind when he realised the pups predicament. The breeder offered him to me for free, providing I had him desexed, which I would have done anyway. I'm so glad he was given to me, he turned out to be a lovely boy :) ETA By the time he was six months his testicles had not decended Edited February 3, 2012 by gsdog2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atanquin Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) Zorro is going in on tusday for his op he has a shy testical as well. I waited a bit long than 6 months because I wanted to see I it would come down but no it doesn't look like it will yes I was quoted about $400 for his desexing is the worst case scenario as it depends how long it takes to find. I contacted my breeder about it just to tell her but no reply I all so wanted to ask about his deformed toe but still no reply which has disappointed me Edited February 4, 2012 by Atanquin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumof4girls Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Oh I didn't know they could go up and down! :D Riley has one undescended, pretty sure it's not a yo-yo and he's 9 months now so I don't think it's coming down. He will be desexed shortly, I have no intention of asking the breeder to pay for anything as Riley was sold as a pet and I view it as just one of those things. I suppose if I'd been after a show dog it might be different. Just wondering', if you wanted to show a dog then does that mean they cannot be desexed? Or it doesn't matter just if they are entire they need both testies dropped ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espinay2 Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) You can show a desexed dogs in Neuter classes and work towards earning a Neuter Champion title (provided the dog is on the main register). But you don't compete against entire dogs. Entire dogs must have two fully descended testicles (though as mentioned there is some leeway in 'baby puppy' class up until the time they reach 6 months of age). (A person who needs to desex because of undescended testicles could therefore enter baby puppy classes up till 6 months of age, then neuter classes from 6 months onwards after the dog is desexed) Edited February 4, 2012 by espinay2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crystale Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 thanks everyone for your reassuring input.....will do anything to my boy until he is 6months......till he is nice and strong and enable to recover after surgery. he will be dong obedience training shortly so that will keep us both happy and busy...once again thanks regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumof4girls Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 You can show a desexed dogs in Neuter classes and work towards earning a Neuter Champion title (provided the dog is on the main register). But you don't compete against entire dogs. Entire dogs must have two fully descended testicles (though as mentioned there is some leeway in 'baby puppy' class up until the time they reach 6 months of age). (A person who needs to desex because of undescended testicles could therefore enter baby puppy classes up till 6 months of age, then neuter classes from 6 months onwards after the dog is desexed) Thank you espinay2 that is interesting :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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