LizT Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) Dog geek, I do so admire you. I admire you conviction, your spirit, your cohesion and clarity of thought and your rationale. Your expanations have been brave and very succinct. You have got me thinking alot more about "genes for colour" in the Cavalier King Charles Spaniel. So far I have only bred particolour to particolour, and for the time being will continue to do so, but looking at the Cavaliers gene code for colour and the possible combinations depending on whether your dog and bitch are particular combination of codes, and the various possible outcomes has really got me thinking about how I can find out more about which gene code my girls are carrying and what I can or can't or shouldn't do with that information. Thank you. You too espinay2 found "your favourite site very interesting too. :) Edited February 4, 2012 by LizT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog geek Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 Well, there you go, LizT - this is the sort of thing that make torrid threads like this worthwhile in the end. To me, this demonstrates we can work together as a community, it might get hairy at times but I feel I have learnt something interesting about myself and that has to be good, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 and because it's life and its already cooking. And the potential for long term health issues and the potential puppy owners emotions is much higher risk to take in my eyes.... Any zero scored dog could get dogs which suffer . DG knows what she has to look for and is going to test and take responsibility for it. Her male is scored O.K. the other puppies the bitch has had are O.K Crook patellas are virtually impossible to avoid for too long in the breed no matter how careful you are .She doesnt know whether the problem is as bad as she thinks because the bitch was scored when she was pregnant nor does she know if the problem is caused by an injury or other things. She knows within reason the ancestors were O.K. - In my opinion it shouldnt be presented as the only option. Bumping off puppies in the womb in case they may have problems is about the same as killing white boxers in case they are deaf in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwaY Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 and because it's life and its already cooking. And the potential for long term health issues and the potential puppy owners emotions is much higher risk to take in my eyes.... Any zero scored dog could get dogs which suffer . I prefer to gamble with better odds on my side. Bumping off puppies in the womb in case they may have problems is about the same as killing white boxers in case they are deaf in my opinion. Culling of whites is more then just because they maybe deaf - You also have to factor potential skin cancer, finding a suitable home to care for special needs dog and possibly a deaf dog on top of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Well I never killed a while boxer and bred 4 of them. They were not deaf, didn't have special needs and made their families very happy and are still living happily ever after. There is no evidence that the odds will be any better with any other dog of that breed. Anyway all I wanted was to ensure DG made her decisions based on both sides and not feel bullied to do so. What ever she decides is good by me. I just wouldn't do it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becks Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Can we ask what happened in the end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog geek Posted February 7, 2012 Author Share Posted February 7, 2012 Ah. Yes, certainly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becks Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I wish you good luck in the future, after such a sad ending to this chapter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog geek Posted February 7, 2012 Author Share Posted February 7, 2012 Naw, thankyou, Becks, kind words and welcome. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 can I ask why the dressing? Curious cause none of my dog or cat spays have ever had a dressing on their wound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog geek Posted February 7, 2012 Author Share Posted February 7, 2012 Not actually sure... I have only had one pet speyed by this vet and am cudgeling my brains to remember if she had a dressing too... I assumed that it was simply to protect the wound? And that I can take it off in a day or so...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 ok, must be something they just do. Sweetie looks well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Sad`chapter maybe, but very cute photo :) Glad she's OK . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog geek Posted February 7, 2012 Author Share Posted February 7, 2012 Oh, yeah, she is fine - a little *too* fine, I have to pen her to stop her running around like normal. I rang the vet just to check - they don't use stitches, I need to take the dressing off in a couple of days if it hasn't fallen off itself. Cheers Nic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkySoaringMagpie Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Hard to think of something appropriate to say that doesn't sound "wrong" or somehow presumptuous, but I take my hat off to you for following through. Give sweetie a pat for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog geek Posted February 7, 2012 Author Share Posted February 7, 2012 Onya, SSM, I get what you mean ;) I will add your pat to her evening cuddle - ta! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Onya, SSM, I get what you mean ;) I will add your pat to her evening cuddle - ta! Hope you're O.K. Dog Geek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog geek Posted February 7, 2012 Author Share Posted February 7, 2012 Thankyou Steve, I am fine - still feel like a bit of a dick that I didn't realise how inconsistant I was being, but hey, it is all a learning curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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