JulesP Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Just got over the phantom pregnancy and the allergy and now Amber has a sore leg! Not a major issue in a normal dog but when you have a dog with a liver problem it is a big deal. Vet thinks it is her hock joint. Anti inflams are a issue because of the liver. Xraying is an issue if she needs to be sedated. If it is a major problem that needs surgery well that is going to be nasty. Poor vet didn't know what to suggest. I've gone the anti inflam route and fingers crossed it doesn't cause a liver problem. Hopefully it is just a soft tissue problem. Vet had that look on his face though that he thought it was worse. Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 If your dog is used to handling and has been taught to be still when you want him to be, it should be possible to have an xray taken without the use of sedation. My avatar girl (bhcs) needed a heart xray but because she'd had (for other reasons) numerous anaesthetia procedures in the not so distant past to that and because of her age, I didn't want to put her through another. The specialist at the time had seen myself and my girl enough to understand that I was confident about what I could get her to do and so he agreed to us not using sedation of any kind. The Xray Vet Team was another matter though, and I had a bit of a struggle to convince them. I needed to stay with my dog of course (poor girl - hated being at the Vets) but once up on the table she allowed me to manipulate her body into position and with me (gowned in the lead apron gear) at her front end stretching her front legs forward and a Vet at the other stretching her back legs back I gave the word "hold" and she stayed perfectly still. The attending Vet/Specialist commented on what a great Xray picture it turned out to be. So yes - it can be done, but depends on the dog. As an aside, the above is another very good reason why I suggest people teach their dogs using lure method but also follow up using the Guide Show Place approach. This method lends itself to the dog learning to trust "hands on" and to comply. Of course it is about knowing how to do it so that "force" is not part of the equation. I don't suggest to go against your Vet's advice, but I wonder if there are natural therapies that might be able to help with inflammatory conditions sufficiently to escape the necessity for use of anti-inflammatory drugs??? Good luck JulesP, whichever you try. I hope it works out the best for your dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Normally she does have xrays without a sedation. The vet was concerned because it was a leg. Easier to do if it is a tummy xray. There are natural anti inflams (arnica, devils claw etc) but she isn't weight baring. I find drugs work better when the injury is worse. Edited January 16, 2012 by JulesP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogfan Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Sorry to hear that JulesP Fingers crossed for a good outcome Edited January 16, 2012 by dogfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lavendergirl Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Poor Amber - do the anti-flam injections effect the liver in the same way that the oral route does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancinbcs Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 My JS puppy had leg x-rays with no sedation. My vets ony use it if they cannot get the dog to co-operate. I think I would have opted for an x-ray first without sedation and if nothing is broken, find a good chiro to treat the injury. Preferably one that does laser and acupuncture as well so you can avoid the drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Normally she does have xrays without a sedation. The vet was concerned because it was a leg. Easier to do if it is a tummy xray. You reckon? Perhaps you're right, but I find with dogs - especially if they are nervous/scared - it is harder for them to be ok with being on their backs for you, up on a hard xray table, in an unfamiliar and scarey environment. But regardless, I hope you manage to work out a way where you can avoid the drugs. I agree with Dancinbcs suggestion. Drugs might work faster but when other condition/s are taken into account, could prove worse. I'd be inclined to try the conservative way first. Just my opinion though. Edited January 16, 2012 by Erny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 Normally she does have xrays without a sedation. The vet was concerned because it was a leg. Easier to do if it is a tummy xray. You reckon? Perhaps you're right, but I find with dogs - especially if they are nervous/scared - it is harder for them to be ok with being on their backs for you, up on a hard xray table, in an unfamiliar and scarey environment. But regardless, I hope you manage to work out a way where you can avoid the drugs. I agree with Dancinbcs suggestion. Drugs might work faster but when other condition/s are taken into account, could prove worse. I'd be inclined to try the conservative way first. Just my opinion though. That is what the vet said about the xrays. She is being treated as he would treat a normal dog, trying the anti flams first. She just has a different drug than normal. After a tablet this morning the leg is more relaxed and she is weight baring a bit so fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavsRcute Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 My girl is getting over biceps tendonitis and has been having traumeel which is a homeopathic anti inflamatory. It's worked really well for her and now she is on Zeel for maintenance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bianca.a Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I have also given my girl Traumeel and then Zeel for a shoulder injury. It seemed to help her. Hoping Amber does well :) http://www.vitacost.com/Heel-Traumeel-Anti-inflammatory-Analgesic-Homeopathic-Medicine#IngredientFacts http://www.vitacost.com/Heel-Zeel-Homeopathic-Medication Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoofnHoof Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Poor girl sounds like the anti-inflamms are doing the trick hopefully they wont cause too many effects because of the liver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 Thought I would update that Amber's leg came good after 4 days on the anti inflams. I walked her yesterday and she stayed sound and has been off the tablets for a couple of days so looks to be all good. I think my vet is a bit of a drama queen! Not good because I am a stress head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k9angel Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Thought I would update that Amber's leg came good after 4 days on the anti inflams. I walked her yesterday and she stayed sound and has been off the tablets for a couple of days so looks to be all good. I think my vet is a bit of a drama queen! Not good because I am a stress head. Great to hear Jules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tassie Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 That sounds encouraging, Jules. And BTW - you're allowed to be a stress-head - not so sure about the vet being allowed to be a drama-queen :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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