Remarkabull Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Hi all, I have a friend who has recently purchased a Chi puppy from interstate and she has started losing hair from her ears and legs. Pup is approx 13 weeks old, female, black in colour (not sure what, if any issues there are with colour in Chi's). Her skin is not flakey or irritated and there is no rash, just this fairly substantial hair loss. Pup is active and alert and otherwise seems to be in good health. I will advise her to talk to the breeder, but I have a feeling that the 'breeder' in this case is one of those that breeds the elusive Tea Cup Chi and sells them unregistered .(I have talked to her about the fact that there is no such thing and also about the importance of buying a dog from a good breeder but she couldn't see past the size issue and wanted the smallest dog possible). Any ideas???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 take it straight to a vet for a health check and ring the breeder. Sadly she might be another person who is going to learn the hard way about poorly bred dogs poor puppy hope it's OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 New Puppy Vet Checks should always be carried out as soon as practical after purchase .. then any problems can be immediately noticed , and if they originated while at the breeders, the breeder can be contacted ...It's also a good place for the vet to get to know the new 'kid' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 If I had to guess, it would be demodex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkabull Posted January 7, 2012 Author Share Posted January 7, 2012 Thanks guys, I have already suggested the vet, but will tell her again and maybe with a sense of urgency this time. She already has a male Chi (who, although looks fairly small to me, she is disappointed at how 'big' he has grown) with whom she plans on breeding to this new puppy. I have advised her against it and explained why she shouldn't do it but she is fairly determined to 'make cute babies' with her dogs. I have been telling her whelping horror stories in the hopes that it will scare her off doing this but I'm sure she will do it anyway. Sigh.........If she was a close friend I would have to distance myself from her as this really bothers me but I only see her at work a couple of days a week and at least she tells me about this stuff and I can try to help the dogs out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 If she plans to breed then don't get involved. Let her make her own decisions & get a feeling of what her puppy buyers may go through after all if she wants to breed people will be phoning her for advice . If she doesn't have the brains to take pup to the vet then heaven. help her when she plans to breed She obviously is not aware the breed standard has been changed & the size increased for Chis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkabull Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 So I told her to take pup to vet as it could be something serious and it should be checked out quickly and she said she will so all is good there. I also told her that if the pup has skin allergies/problems then she shouldn't breed from it as it can be passed on to the pups. She loves her dogs and doesn't want to hurt them or lose them but she is young and inexperienced and has no idea of what is involved in breeding apart from ending up with some cute tiny puppies to sell. Fortunately I only see her at work, we don't socialise outside of work (she is mid 20's, single, likes to party, I'm early 30's, married with kids and boring as hell ), however I think I'm the only person she knows that has any kind of a clue about dogs and I haven't given up on convincing her NOT to breed the dogs yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 have a look at the teacup pomeranian thread.. and give the link posted in there to your workmate .if that doesn't scare her, nothing will! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikitten Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Tell her that a small female chi bred to a larger male chi will most probably require a caesarian section that costs $1500 - so hope she has a lot of money :-) And that she will have to stay up all night making sure the puppies are feeding properly and dont die from hypoglaecemia. Also that most chi's have only 2-3 puppies a pop, so she wont get her money back after all the vet bills for the mum, puppies vaccinations, worming treatments, etc. That should do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 She loves her dogs and doesn't want to hurt them or lose them but she is young and inexperienced I would be letting her know her current ideas and buying patterns are not conducive to this idea. She's taking massive risks in wanting to breed unhealthy, unpapered animals of unknown backgrounds. That's nothing more then a low grade BYBer then a loving pet owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosepup Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 She obviously is not aware the breed standard has been changed & the size increased for Chis It doesn't sound like she'd care too much about breed standard to be honest. She loves her dogs and doesn't want to hurt them or lose them but she is young and inexperienced and has no idea of what is involved in breeding apart from ending up with some cute tiny puppies to sell. If any. I'm not a breeder but have discussed it with a few Chi breeders and from what I understand it can be very difficult due to their size and all of the ones I've spoken to will not breed from a Chi that's so small. It's too much of a risk. I feel sad for this poor pup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 It it a smooth coat or long coat? When long coats drop their puppy coat it can be quite alarming and some can even look "smooth coated" for a while before the new adult coat comes in. On the breeding side of things, I am only new to breeding my Chi's and have found it difficult. Also agree with Moosepup, I would not breed with anything small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkabull Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 I have told her about the cost of a c section and also about how risky it is to breed dogs that are so small, but at the end of the day all she knows is that she purchased 2 unregistered pups (the breeder of her first pup said they were a registered breeder but that they didn't register their pups anymore because there was no point because they were too small to show )from people who seem to have produced these 'teacup' dogs with little to no effort or money spent and they have made money off selling them ($1500 for the first pup and $1000 for the second) and she assumes that she can do the same. She is not mean or uncaring, just uneducated. Despite how many times I have explained to her that there is no such thing as a 'teacup' anything when people ask her if her dogs are one she says yes. It's very frustrating for me and I will keep giving her my opinion on the matter and hopefully she can be convinced before it's too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Yep, sometimes there is no point telling people, it falls on deaf ears. Poor dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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