Rebanne Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 so you still haven't produced any proof of this "breed" nor of it's "breeders", you are just trolling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother fox Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) The problem I am having is despite what was happening 200 yrs ago - you are unable to point us at either current breeders or documented histories for these dogs. And that is despite me and others asking you for any information about these dogs as we were genuinely interested. But you just say nothing is documented and vaguely point at western Vic and SA for breeders. Both documented histories and breeders who are still breeding for purpose are available for herding breeds that started in our early colonial days which seems at odds with what you are saying about staghounds as a breed. And I do not understand your comments about working breed registries - whilst conformation registries can be responsible for dogs moving far from their original base, working registries still are just that a registry of dogs doing the job they have been bred for from day dot. Growing up in rural Australia I can tell you that most that care about what they breed keep detailed records of their stock regardless of species. Our family still have documentation from my great grandfather from the first decade of the 1900's which detail his purchases & breedings of not just cattle and sheep but also of his horses and his dogs. I still remember being shocked when I first saw what he paid for good horses and dogs back then especially compared to what he paid his stockman for their labour. And was told his simple philosophy - a good dog (or horse) does the work of three good men so pay for the best you can afford and look after them well for their life time - you will be repaid well and many times over what they cost you. I am never going to reveal any of these breeders names, addresses, phone numbers, tax file numbers or bank account details on a public forum because as I have mentioned before these breeders are very "PRIVATE" proud people who have managed to keep Australia,s first breed of dog in it,s original form with its very own breed traits intact for over 150 years just handed down from dedicated breeder to the next. If you go back over 150 years ago there is very little documented information on any type of animal in Australia. You only have to look for information on Australia,s first show breed of poultry the Australian Game Fowl and find out how little is known about this animal today even let alone its predecessor the "colonial"game fowl. People have rarely kept written documentation of any type of working dog breeding during this period. Conformation should always go hand in hand for any breed doing the job they have been bred for from the day dot as the old saying goes,"you can,t dance if your pants dont fit". Most of these breeders have documentation of the breeding of their own farm animals just like your great grandfather but hunting dogs were a work tool not traded or bred for money so their breeding was just passed from breeder to breeder. Edited January 20, 2012 by brother fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother fox Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 so you still haven't produced any proof of this "breed" nor of it's "breeders", you are just trolling Go back and read this thread from start to finish and then see what little knowledge you have contributed to this thread. Then tell me who,s the troll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
german_shep_fan Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 so you still haven't produced any proof of this "breed" nor of it's "breeders", you are just trolling Go back and read this thread from start to finish and then see what little knowledge you have contributed to this thread. Then tell me who,s the troll? :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddy Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I am never going to reveal any of these breeders names, addresses, phone numbers, tax file numbers or bank account details on a public forum because *snip* Rebanne would probably settle for a website address or just some sort of proof that any of these dogs even exist and are of the lineage claimed. TFNs are pretty useless anyway, unless the ATO has started charging a tax on pretend dogs or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotdogz Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) Brother Fox I don't know why you bother. Edited January 20, 2012 by hotdogz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddy Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Brother Fox I don't know why you bother. Most of this site is made up of do gooder dog rescuers who have no idea or show people who have lots to answer for in regards to dogs health today. It is quite difficult and in most cases just pure time wasted to try to put your point across. But the saddest part is they feed off each other with the self opinionated fanciful and on the most part ill informed ideals. Because BYBs are known for producing sound, health-tested dogs, right? :rolleyes: If you actually feel this site is a waste of time.. why exactly are you here? The only thing I can think of is to troll. Also.. for someone so bothered by "do gooder dog rescuers", you sure do spend a lot of time in the rescue section ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 There are many working regisrties of working dogs that survive and function quite well even though they are contactable ie website, contact phone numbers etc. I am not sure being very secrative is possibly in the best interests of the breed. I am very interested in Staghounds as my grandfather had them as a young new land farmer and used them for controling kangeroo populations after clearing the farm we still own today. He also had a small whippet X greyhound for the Rabbits and to help on the roo hunting as well. Oh and hotdogz. I own pedigree dogs and show, do obedience and other dogs sports with them, I have nothing to answer for in relation to what you percive as they demise of dog health. Health, soundness and functionality are extremely important to me and the dogs I am custodian for. Your comment is offensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megan_ Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Damn those rescuers, doing good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Brother Fox I don't know why you bother. Most of this site is made up of do gooder dog rescuers who have no idea or show people who have lots to answer for in regards to dogs health today. It is quite difficult and in most cases just pure time wasted to try to put your point across. But the saddest part is they feed off each other with the self opinionated fanciful and on the most part ill informed ideals. Because BYBs are known for producing sound, health-tested dogs, right? :rolleyes: If you actually feel this site is a waste of time.. why exactly are you here? The only thing I can think of is to troll. Also.. for someone so bothered by "do gooder dog rescuers", you sure do spend a lot of time in the rescue section ;) glad you caught the full post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotdogz Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Brother Fox I don't know why you bother. Most of this site is made up of do gooder dog rescuers who have no idea or show people who have lots to answer for in regards to dogs health today. It is quite difficult and in most cases just pure time wasted to try to put your point across. But the saddest part is they feed off each other with the self opinionated fanciful and on the most part ill informed ideals. Because BYBs are known for producing sound, health-tested dogs, right? :rolleyes: If you actually feel this site is a waste of time.. why exactly are you here? The only thing I can think of is to troll. Also.. for someone so bothered by "do gooder dog rescuers", you sure do spend a lot of time in the rescue section ;) I sure do saving worthy dogs. Not trying to save every impounded dog at any cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifi Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Brother Fox I don't know why you bother. Most of this site is made up of do gooder dog rescuers who have no idea or show people who have lots to answer for in regards to dogs health today. It is quite difficult and in most cases just pure time wasted to try to put your point across. But the saddest part is they feed off each other with the self opinionated fanciful and on the most part ill informed ideals. Because BYBs are known for producing sound, health-tested dogs, right? :rolleyes: If you actually feel this site is a waste of time.. why exactly are you here? The only thing I can think of is to troll. Also.. for someone so bothered by "do gooder dog rescuers", you sure do spend a lot of time in the rescue section ;) glad you caught the full post! Me too !! of course when you look at some of the boarhunter or pig dog hunting sites, they are so full of well researched genetic gems like hybrid vigour vs the crap of a health tested line bred pedigree dog :rolleyes: the absence of health issues just because you threw the mates wolfhound X dane X mastiff X neo over your deerhound X greyhound X bullarab XXXXXXX :rolleyes: fifi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyosha Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 And don't forget the best bit, shoot or dump the ones you don't want at the nearest pound, especially when you've bred a bunch of large to giant breeds together and raised the pups on crap and weetbix, and complan that they're no good. Better try some other dog & bitch next time... :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifi Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Of course Aloysha, and don't those litters come into the pounds in such well cared for condition undernourished, wormy, unsocialised. I don't even want to think of the one's that are never seen And I'm not talking about a failed hunter being 'culled', just surplus pups from litters of 12. I do know some very proffesional hunters whose dogs are imaculatley kept, armoured, radio collars, trained, and treasured, sadly the cowboys outnumber them. fifi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souff Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Brother Fox I don't know why you bother. Most of this site is made up of do gooder dog rescuers who have no idea or show people who have lots to answer for in regards to dogs health today. It is quite difficult and in most cases just pure time wasted to try to put your point across. But the saddest part is they feed off each other with the self opinionated fanciful and on the most part ill informed ideals. Because BYBs are known for producing sound, health-tested dogs, right? :rolleyes: If you actually feel this site is a waste of time.. why exactly are you here? The only thing I can think of is to troll. Also.. for someone so bothered by "do gooder dog rescuers", you sure do spend a lot of time in the rescue section ;) I sure do saving worthy dogs. Not trying to save every impounded dog at any cost. God luv ya, Hotdogz, you didnt have to edit your original post. You just told it like I often see it :laugh: but I hasten to add that there are still one or two of us somewhere between those two descriptions, cringers and cowards though we might be, it is just far easier to leave the bleeding hearts and the blind showies to the crap and go and enjoy life and give our time to other pursuits ;) Interesting thread. Has strayed quite a way from the fact that someone had two dogs that roamed and did damage, and one has now gone to its maker, and the other will probably join it there. Interesting comment about breed registers in there too. Misguided, but interesting nonetheless. Always good to drop in to DOL, and get a smile before one goes elsewhere. Souff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovemymutts Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Of course Aloysha, and don't those litters come into the pounds in such well cared for condition undernourished, wormy, unsocialised. I don't even want to think of the one's that are never seen And I'm not talking about a failed hunter being 'culled', just surplus pups from litters of 12. I do know some very proffesional hunters whose dogs are imaculatley kept, armoured, radio collars, trained, and treasured, sadly the cowboys outnumber them. fifi not so much cowboys, but bogans. You only have to look at all the BS on the 'staghound' facebook pages, I removed myself it got so frustrating, those people just have no idea. My guess is the pounds ended up with half those dogs, hey I've probably had some come through my care. Anyway BF & others will believe what they want, no point going on about it. But was good for a laugh :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddy Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Brother Fox I don't know why you bother. Most of this site is made up of do gooder dog rescuers who have no idea or show people who have lots to answer for in regards to dogs health today. It is quite difficult and in most cases just pure time wasted to try to put your point across. But the saddest part is they feed off each other with the self opinionated fanciful and on the most part ill informed ideals. Because BYBs are known for producing sound, health-tested dogs, right? :rolleyes: If you actually feel this site is a waste of time.. why exactly are you here? The only thing I can think of is to troll. Also.. for someone so bothered by "do gooder dog rescuers", you sure do spend a lot of time in the rescue section ;) I sure do saving worthy dogs. Not trying to save every impounded dog at any cost. Not all rescuers do that and most of the rescuers here are good people doing the hard work to help where they can. Nice to know what you think of their efforts though, my under-bridge dwelling chum ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrubber Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Brother Fox I don't know why you bother. Most of this site is made up of do gooder dog rescuers who have no idea or show people who have lots to answer for in regards to dogs health today. It is quite difficult and in most cases just pure time wasted to try to put your point across. But the saddest part is they feed off each other with the self opinionated fanciful and on the most part ill informed ideals. Because BYBs are known for producing sound, health-tested dogs, right? :rolleyes: If you actually feel this site is a waste of time.. why exactly are you here? The only thing I can think of is to troll. Also.. for someone so bothered by "do gooder dog rescuers", you sure do spend a lot of time in the rescue section ;) I sure do saving worthy dogs. Not trying to save every impounded dog at any cost. Not all rescuers do that and most of the rescuers here are good people doing the hard work to help where they can. Nice to know what you think of their efforts though, my under-bridge dwelling chum ;) This is getting absurd. Totally off topic. I'd suggest you guys thrash it out personally and not bother us with this . .. or do it in general, not news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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