mumof4girls Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 This scares me, I have started walking the streets near me to see what they are like, so far I haven't come across any dogs although maybe once I start walking with one they will appear :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimiss Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 This scares me, I have started walking the streets near me to see what they are like, so far I haven't come across any dogs although maybe once I start walking with one they will appear :-( Exactly my thoughts when reading this thread. I don't really see many dogs around here. The ones I have seen are on leashes and seem relatively behaved. There is a house that is on my road that have a husky and a samoyed and they lunge at the fence when anyone walk past. There is a teeny gap at the bottom of the fencing and you can see them trying to stick their heads through. Pretty intimidating. I cross the road if I have to pass that house. I'm frightened they'll either jump through, or over the fence. As much as I hate violence towards animals - I would not hesitate to defend me of my dog. I'm not a very big person but I will give it my all to try and protect my dog from some feral unleashed beast. These stories are becoming far, far too common. It's a worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Crazy Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 (edited) Totally agree with you minimiss. I am only a small built person but I would defend my 2 with every breath in me & I am the most passive person usually but it is just happening far too often all these stray dogs causing havic. Edited December 19, 2011 by BC Crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tralee Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Hi All too common. The last time it happened to me, and it has happened too many times, the owners of the dog had just finished complaining that my big dog was off leash on the road in a rural area where all of the people with dogs walked them off leash. You have a perfectly good right to protect "Life, Limb and Property" and your dogs are your property. It is an interesting issue because I believe you also have a perfectly good right to meet force with equal force when in fear of danger. I am not going to advocate hitting the dog, but defending your own dog takes a paramount consideration. My approach is to take a camera, send the pics to your ranger, and make it quite clear what his/her responsibilities are to you and other people who walk their dogs in that area. An $800 fine should get the dog restrained. Good luck Px Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffyluv Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I can't get over the fact that other dogs are attacking your pup. Pups usually get a right of passage with older dogs and they don't usually attack them. I realise there would be exceptions to the rule. You should defend your pup. For the record I have found the following successful (so far): When you see a dog running towards you and your dog, if you feel uncomfortable, then step in front of your dog, stamp your foot and in a loud growl say nooooo (or go home or get - what ever works for you). So far so good and I have managed over the years to protect an old dog who was a target many times. Poor pup, it is not good for the sociaisation of the pup either. I think you should report the incidents and the owners and offending dogs to the local council. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 take a bamboo cane with you, the thickness of your finger. A good crack to the ribs or nose will make them back off as will the swishing sound. I find the double ended leads handy, last time a kelpie and boxer x rushed my bitch with teeth bared they both copped a brass clip to the face. Owner nearly did too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest donatella Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I don't walk Lucy on the streets it's far too dangerous. Less then 3kg of her against anything off leash with a prey drive could mean a very dead dog. Instead I've found big parks I can walk around and see 360 degrees or quiet beach areas but the streets and fences are too dangerous. Be very very wary when your baby gets home at least they're so small we can pick them up, I'm happy to be in the firing line over her. This scares me, I have started walking the streets near me to see what they are like, so far I haven't come across any dogs although maybe once I start walking with one they will appear :-( Exactly my thoughts when reading this thread. I don't really see many dogs around here. The ones I have seen are on leashes and seem relatively behaved. There is a house that is on my road that have a husky and a samoyed and they lunge at the fence when anyone walk past. There is a teeny gap at the bottom of the fencing and you can see them trying to stick their heads through. Pretty intimidating. I cross the road if I have to pass that house. I'm frightened they'll either jump through, or over the fence. As much as I hate violence towards animals - I would not hesitate to defend me of my dog. I'm not a very big person but I will give it my all to try and protect my dog from some feral unleashed beast. These stories are becoming far, far too common. It's a worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsdog2 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 You have my sympathies - very upsetting having you pup attacked for no reason I have just returned a foster Military Working pup to the RAAF, but while I had him I had to walk him in as many different environments as possible. I soon stopped walking him around our local neighborhood with so many dogs running the fence line (he'll get plenty of that at the Base ) and found the best place to walk him was in town or the local shopping centres (ring first to make sure it's ok). There are rarely any other dogs around and it's great socialising for your dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCheekyMonster Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Its worse when you have a APBT because everyone is quick to judge your dog the one as causing trouble.... a few months ago OH, myself and Nala were at a dog park.... Nala is always on a leash when other dogs are around because this senario has happened way too often....a staffy came running up to us and I knew that this was not going to be a friendly greeting...he went straight to mount her and nala shook him off and gave a little warning to back up... then he started biting her ankles, mean while the owner is casually walking our direction till I yelled out COME GRAB YOUR FREAKING DOG!!! then she shifted to a light jog... in that time OH has to physically separate this dog off Nala and the staffy bit him..as a reaction he gave the dog a kick to the stomach to get him off, once the owner saw that she RAN!! and started yelling at us not to kick her dog... then says we shouldnt be walking that kind of dog in public...that blew my mind away.. so I said excuse me but your dog just bit my partner and attacked our dog.. you dont see us making a big deal about it.. just keep your dog on a lead if you cant control it....she then had a look of horror on her face and asked us to prove where the dog had bitten him... we showed her 2 puncture marks with blood pouring out of them... and she said oh my dog didnt do that it must have been your dog......even though Nala the whole time had not showed one sign of agression.... its amazing how quick people are to blame a dog but never watch their own!!.... since then I have also HATED!!dogs off lead... it makes me so so nervious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Its worse when you have a APBT because everyone is quick to judge your dog the one as causing trouble.... a few months ago OH, myself and Nala were at a dog park.... Nala is always on a leash when other dogs are around because this senario has happened way too often....a staffy came running up to us and I knew that this was not going to be a friendly greeting...he went straight to mount her and nala shook him off and gave a little warning to back up... then he started biting her ankles, mean while the owner is casually walking our direction till I yelled out COME GRAB YOUR FREAKING DOG!!! then she shifted to a light jog... in that time OH has to physically separate this dog off Nala and the staffy bit him..as a reaction he gave the dog a kick to the stomach to get him off, once the owner saw that she RAN!! and started yelling at us not to kick her dog... then says we shouldnt be walking that kind of dog in public...that blew my mind away.. so I said excuse me but your dog just bit my partner and attacked our dog.. you dont see us making a big deal about it.. just keep your dog on a lead if you cant control it....she then had a look of horror on her face and asked us to prove where the dog had bitten him... we showed her 2 puncture marks with blood pouring out of them... and she said oh my dog didnt do that it must have been your dog......even though Nala the whole time had not showed one sign of agression.... its amazing how quick people are to blame a dog but never watch their own!!.... since then I have also HATED!!dogs off lead... it makes me so so nervious. Some people are idiots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCheekyMonster Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Tell me about it.... like jesus.. if you do not have 100% control over your dog it should not be off leash FULL STOP!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyt Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I feel for you and your pup. I hope he can live a normal life after what he has been through. I would definitely only take this pup to areas I knew to be safe from now on and at times that reduced the likelihood of another attack... by now, other dogs are picking up on the pup's fear and this will only increase the likelihood of another attack.. FWIW, If I need to protect a dog, I step out well in front, well before the advancing dog gets within range and meet their advance head on, swiftly and confidently. I have picked up other people's small dogs too from time to time but again, well in advance of the approaching dog and have then challenged the rogue dog. On leash or off in controlled areas doesn't bother me anywhere near as much as dogs that are territorial eg, behind fences or guarding park benches or guarding babies at beaches etc. My experience is that challenging the dog BEFORE it gets into your space is the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WExtremeG Posted December 20, 2011 Author Share Posted December 20, 2011 Update: I called the council this morning as I wanted to be sure that the people who claimed they had found the animal had in fact rang the council pound like they were claiming to do (after the attack)- they had. I got a call back from them (the council) a little over an hour later with someone different than to who I had spoken earlier. The ranger informed me that they had picked up the dog and it would most likely be destroyed as it had shown aggression to the rangers as well as to other dogs at the pound. He also went on to say that the people who had found it, found it over a month ago, and that they were likely wanting to keep it as they hadn't notified the pound before yesterday. The rangers are classing it as their dog as one month is "pretty much claiming responsibility for the animal". Thanks for all your support Our pup's tough...we will get through this. Next time will walk with boots on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCheekyMonster Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Makes you wonder why there has not been nation wide education about dogs, behaviour of dogs and what to do when you see a dog whom is showing signs of aggression. Instead of all this shocking publicity how about they start educating some dumbos about correct procedure.... Owell atleast you have done the right thing.... im sure your pup will be fine...just start socializing around some "normal" dogs hahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeckoTree Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Oh yeah slip a sjambok around your waist, pitty the fool of a rushing dog......... Ruuuuuf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacqui835 Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I feel for you and your pup. I hope he can live a normal life after what he has been through. I would definitely only take this pup to areas I knew to be safe from now on and at times that reduced the likelihood of another attack... by now, other dogs are picking up on the pup's fear and this will only increase the likelihood of another attack.. FWIW, If I need to protect a dog, I step out well in front, well before the advancing dog gets within range and meet their advance head on, swiftly and confidently. I have picked up other people's small dogs too from time to time but again, well in advance of the approaching dog and have then challenged the rogue dog. On leash or off in controlled areas doesn't bother me anywhere near as much as dogs that are territorial eg, behind fences or guarding park benches or guarding babies at beaches etc. My experience is that challenging the dog BEFORE it gets into your space is the key. Agree with this post. Never ignore a dog that is watching yours, stalking you or following you from a distance - that is the time to confront them. If you do wait until they're close, they are at a much higher level and you will have to do a lot more to get them to notice you (or anything for that matter other than their target). I don't walk away from dogs that are off-lead and focused on mine, because you can't out run them so you need to turn around and confront them. So sorry about what happened to your pup though Completely unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzycuddles Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I'm glad they have actually reported him but a little frustrated that they wouldnt report for a month what if someone was missing him? Equally why not just officially claim him as yours instead of trying to avoid responsibility : ranger is doing the right thing IMO with holding them accountable. It's unfortunate that the dog has to be pts though. Glad puppy is coming through it ok fingers crossed for an uneventful puppyhood that he can enjoy from now on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WExtremeG Posted December 20, 2011 Author Share Posted December 20, 2011 I'm glad they have actually reported him but a little frustrated that they wouldnt report for a month what if someone was missing him? Equally why not just officially claim him as yours instead of trying to avoid responsibility : ranger is doing the right thing IMO with holding them accountable. It's unfortunate that the dog has to be pts though. Glad puppy is coming through it ok fingers crossed for an uneventful puppyhood that he can enjoy from now on Yeah, that's what got me too. What if his owners were looking for him ?- they'd never have a hope of finding him in someones backyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WExtremeG Posted December 20, 2011 Author Share Posted December 20, 2011 I feel for you and your pup. I hope he can live a normal life after what he has been through. I would definitely only take this pup to areas I knew to be safe from now on and at times that reduced the likelihood of another attack... by now, other dogs are picking up on the pup's fear and this will only increase the likelihood of another attack.. FWIW, If I need to protect a dog, I step out well in front, well before the advancing dog gets within range and meet their advance head on, swiftly and confidently. I have picked up other people's small dogs too from time to time but again, well in advance of the approaching dog and have then challenged the rogue dog. On leash or off in controlled areas doesn't bother me anywhere near as much as dogs that are territorial eg, behind fences or guarding park benches or guarding babies at beaches etc. My experience is that challenging the dog BEFORE it gets into your space is the key. Agree with this post. Never ignore a dog that is watching yours, stalking you or following you from a distance - that is the time to confront them. If you do wait until they're close, they are at a much higher level and you will have to do a lot more to get them to notice you (or anything for that matter other than their target). I don't walk away from dogs that are off-lead and focused on mine, because you can't out run them so you need to turn around and confront them. So sorry about what happened to your pup though Completely unacceptable. There was only time to run in front of the dog and yell at it while trying to catch/stop it before it came in contact with our pup- it bolted right through my hands and even as it was latched on, it was extremely hard to get a grip of it as it was powerfully built with a short coat that you couldn't grab. Dogs like that you can't stop especially if they're intent on getting what they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kritta Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 This is an all to common thing walking your dog along the streets. Last dog that latched onto my pup got a good kick in the guts that sent it flying. I was really annoyed that it had happened.... I growled at the dog as I neared it told it to get home and it took of around me and sunk it's teeth into the flank of my pup, I saw red.... Thats my rant. Grrrrrrr....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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